From Pizzagate to Drag Bills: The ‘Groomer’ Myth That Will Not Die

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  1. Cybred

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    What are you protecting them from?
     
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    As I said, your thoughts are disgusting. We have many age appropriate things for a reason.
     
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    Well fortunately my parents explained to me what was going on when I saw kittens coming out of my cats ass. I'm guessing its because of religion that is the reason why you guys think that sex is perverted and evil.
     
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    This is total nonsense.

    There is NO evidence of your perverted claim.
     
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    This is horrific.

    K-3 kids absolutely know about the families of their classmates - which have 0 or more male parents, which have 0 or more female parents.

    The work to ban books that show two daddies or show a mixed race family is an ugly attempt toward promoting hateful treatment of children.

    K-3 kids have information about sex from their brothers, sisters, friends, parents, and other sources. They know what language their classmates speak at home. They know which kids have mixed race parents. They know all kinds of stuff. Your concept of k-3 kids being profoundly stupid is just flat out ridiculous.

    What they do need is information related to protecting themselves from sexual assault, including incest, presented in an age appropriate manner, obviously.

    And, they need to know that they can be fully happy with their parents and that there is NO justification for discrimination by bullies in the school who have been taught to hate.
     
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    I think you have your ‘Trans people’ mixed up with the current bigotry against Drag Queens who by the way dress up as women but don’t want to live as a woman’

    How about we have a little chat about mental blocks and ignorance when it comes to the bigotry and intolerance surrounding Trans people.
     
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    Drag queens, Trans, not much of a difference now. Most of the Ts you see are just those who want to live their fetish all the time. They might call themselves Trans but they’re still just drag queens or women who try to look like guys, who want to be normalized. Part of the problem is how there are so many different variations that no one can really keep track of. It’s why it’s a mental illness.

    And there is no LIVING as a woman if you’re a male. You’re just trying to. You can never really BE a woman. That’s the disconnect and mental disease. Dudes trying to breast feed babies is freaking INSANE!! You know it. Everyone who understands science knows it. But mental illness knows no bounds.
     
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    You just said a whole lot of words that mean nothing.
     
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    Absolutely non-sense defense for a perverted behavior.

    Most kids explore sexuality as part of the natural development process. Many younger people are bi or gay curious and generally work out on their own their sexuality.

    The problem is, pushing sexuality one way or another on children. Normalizing or promoting sexuality in an effort to steer them and their development a certain way is sick.

    Why do the left support it? Simple, they have identified a group that they feel are victims (lgbtq) and desire to defend them... increasing numbers and normalizing their sexuality promotes acceptance and what better group than children?

    They are easily manipulated.

    It's a sick and twisted way to "progress".

    There are no bounds to radical liberal agenda and any means to their desired ends is fair game. It's political extremism.
     
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    You can't "steer kids" toward your preferred sexuality. Their sexuality is theirs.

    The left do not support any effort to steer kids as you propose here. That claim is just flat out BS. The left has been adamant about that, including creating laws AGAINST "conversion therapy" attempts made by Christians. These attempts have shown that even tactics that amount to torture don't work.

    The left still works AGAINST conversion therapy, as laws don't fully prevent such attempts.

    What IS appropriate has to do with recognizing that humans are diverse in many ways, and we need to accept that.
     
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    You act as though sexuality is not part of the development process.

    Kids just know at age 3, or 6, or 12 that they are gay? Nope. No. Sorry.

    Go ask most kids if they like the opposite sex, and they will tell you all about cooties.

    So there arent childrens books about homosexuality? There arent childrens clothing lines that are tuck friendly? There arent schools and teachers integrating these topics into elementary education?

    There arent a bunch if LGBTQ pride parade goes chanting "we're coming for your kids"?


    Children are not developed.

    What part of that us hard to understand?

    The desire to bring children into the conversation of sexuality is absolutley disgusting and politically driven extremism by radicals.
     
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    They don't know their sexuality. But, you can not change what it will be, no matter how hard you try.
    Understanding that our society IS diverse and that it is NOT a justification for failure to treat each other equally IS important.

    That is communicated in part by having examples of math, or whatever include a depiction of our diverse population.

    Schools don't promote clothing lines.
    Do you really think they are coming for your kids?

    Or, are they yanking your chain, showing how ridiculous the right wing panic is.

    Also, this has nothing to do with school.
    You are making crap up.

    Showing that it is ok that some kids have two daddies isn't some sort of assault.

    OR, are you suggesting that it is NOT OK for kids to have two daddies, and kids that DO have two daddies must be bullied?
     
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    You are wrong. I’m mostly straight, but have been attracted to several women in my life. I’ve kissed a few… gone further with a couple. I enjoyed it, but love my man. He’s everything.
     
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    I don't believe you are disagreeing here.

    Your sexuality is you.
     
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    So now making a choice is a mental illness. There is a difference between gender and sex. Sex refers to the biological and physiological characteristics of males and females — reproductive organs, chromosomes, hormones etc. Gender refers to socially constructed characteristics of men and women. Gender is an identity — it’s your personal sense of who you are. Identity is subjective and it’s not dependent on whether you possess a penis or vagina. How one expresses their gender identity is through clothing, behaviour, etc.

    A biological male who has a personal sense that they are female can live a life that expresses their gender identity. They can dress like a woman, use make-up, take up what is seen as ‘female’ behaviour. This is a subjective choice, it’s isn’t mental illness.

    Your words reek of transphobia and using a label of mental illness is just an attempt to invalidate transgender people. Why don’t you learn the meaning of terms. You apparently don’t even know what a fetish is. You certainly don’t understand the difference between sex and gender. You don’t know the difference between a drag Queen and a transgender person. And most of all you appear not even to understand what mental illness is.
     
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    We don't know "what will be", their brains don't even know what will be. But absolutely social pressures on impressionable children have a direct correlation to what they end up being.

    Society has the ability to keep gay people in the closet to the point that some of them get married and have children while being gay. If it can happen that way, why not the other way where straight kids who have been promoted homosexuality or transgenderism take that path of exploration who otherwise wouldn't?

    Why is it so important for them to explore that sexuality and provide various promotions of certain aspects before they are even developed mentally?

    Who is claiming people shouldn't be treated equally?

    I think children should not be indoctrinated about heterosexuality or homosexuality or anything else related to sexuality as a child.

    So using religion, specifically christianity, as part of the math curriculum is acceptable to showcase the diverse nature of our populace? What about white nationalism? Should they be equally represented in our schools lessons for the sake of diversity?

    I think the progressive lefties have been so radicalized into the political agenda, they are incapable of seeing their own extremism.

    Yes. 1000% kids are being indoctrinated.








    We don't send our kids to school to be indoctrinated.

    Teach them the lessons they represent they are teaching, math, science, english, etc... and the teachers should keep everything else to themselves.

    Nobody signs their kid up for school believing they are giving liberals full reign to say and do whatever they want.


    You can deny the evidence all you want...

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    Even the authors of the book fail to see that sexuality is STILL IN DEVELOPMENT at these ages, yet they have no issue representing that kids have already identified that they are queer.

    It's almost like they want them to be queer, before their brains have developed enough to know.

    Wonder why that is?
     
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    Ok, let's just stop right there.

    You can not change some kid's sexuality.

    Christians have tried. They've gone to powerful lengths, to the point of using torture. And, they have failed.

    There are LAWS against trying to do this.

    Your concept of what being "in the closet" means is mistaken. Being in the closet just means that an individual hasn't stated their orientation.
     
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    Kids haven't defined their sexuality yet!

    It was an example.


    The fact that you think some 5 year old kid knows their sexuality and further takes steps to further explore it is just absolute silliness.
     
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    No sex and gender are intertwined. You see mental illness makes you THINK you can just choose whatever you want to be on that day. Sorry. That's delusional, usually combined with a heavy dose of depression. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and so is body dysmorphia. When the Drag Queen is living their real selves all day long instead of just in the club, it’s not just a simple fetish anymore. When a dude in markup and a dress thinks they’re a woman that’s mental illness too. When a female thinks cutting her hair, taking some drugs and cutting off her breasts, makes her a man, sorry NOT healthy. Attaching a non functional
    Fake Penis to herself also doesn’t make her male.

    And sorry. When people can’t define what a woman is they have no place to tell anyone else what reality is. They already lost it. :)
     
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    Yes, they haven't matured yet. But, what you are suggesting is like trying to coax them into being taller than they would have been.

    The real issue here is that they KNOW when they have brothers and sisters who are LGBTQ.

    They KNOW how many mommies and daddies they have. They KNOW their skin color. They KNOW the language they speak at home.

    How do you expect kids to handle who they are, who their family is when the school is ordered to present a world when their characteristics are so evil that they can't even be talked about, can't even exist in books?

    Then add that their white classmates with two hetero parents are projected in school as the idea!! Where do you think THAT leads?

    What is the message you are trying to teach kids whose families, color of skin, sexual orientation, etc., is not like what DeSantis demands?
     
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    What age were you when you sat down, had a think, and decided you were a boy? Like, 18? Later?
     
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    You're not paying attention then. Perhaps few claim they are but we do hear a lot of the QANON philosophy shared here.
    Back to the thread.
    The irony is that gays harm no one by accepting themselves as they are. The anti gays, however, have discarded their Bibles and make efforts to create misery including their own. Muslims are often not innocent themselves.
     
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    So basically, you are concluding that since Nazis liked to eat chocolate, therefore anyone else that mentions chocolate is also a Nazi or at least sharing their philosophy.

    Pure Nonsense.
     
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    Teaching kids basic facts about the world around them isn't grooming.

    There were only THREE people on that video caught chanting that: two on camera, and one behind the camera . . . from the guy who is obviously anti LGBTQ and not part of the pride parade.




    I'm sorry you don't remember being in middle school. And Europe has been teaching early sex education for decades . . . it results in kids being MORE comfortable going to authorities if they are sexually assaulted . . . it's BAD for groomers for kids to learn this stuff at school.
     
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    Shhhh.... how will the pedos know how to find each other?
     
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