Fully Vaccinated Healthcare workers carry 251 times viral load, according to study

Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers s Health Defense

A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.​

A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published August 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.
The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.​

I've written about this before. In preventing the infected from getting sick, the vaccine allows them to keep going around without realizing they are infected, potentially making them more likely to infect others.

 

That isn't what it says. Your post is fraudulant.

Go to the actual paper, which BTW isn't published. It is talking about the Delta compared to previous variants.

 

You appear to be correct. The article in the link was apparently misrepresenting the original paper a little bit.

I don't think the claim in the article was completely irrelevant though, since what this actually means is that those with the Delta variant who were vaccinated have 251 times the viral load of those who had the regular form of Covid, at an earlier time when most people were not vaccinated.

I doubt the delta form really will cause 251 times the viral load of regular Covid. Rather those who had the regular form before people were widely vaccinated were less likely to have been counted in these statistics because they were so symptomatic.

 

Many individuals who've been injected are walking spike protein factories.

Higher viral load determined by nasal swabs would fit right in with that.

 

Let me give some clarification. Even though the study was trying to look at how much greater the viral load was in the Delta variant than the regular form, the results of the study also suggest that vaccination might be causing a large increase of the viral load. This is because the study did not have a control group available of individuals who were vaccinated at the time while simultaneously having absolutely no chance of having the Delta variant. So although the study was attempting to look at the Delta variant versus the regular form, it was also, out of necessity, looking at vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

 

This does not fit into the leftist agenda that rising cases are all the unvaccinated's fault.

 

And so one big question is exactly how much does the vaccine actually reduce the spread?

We shouldn't necessarily be pushing the vaccines on everyone if it only reduces the spread a little bit.

 

I would ask this simple question. How do we know that it isn't? If vaccinated folks can, and do still carry, as is predicated by now requiring masking of them to protect others (laughable bit of problematic science ignorance there) the question is why. If folks are vaccinated, what is the impetus for them to be further tested to find out if they are carrying? The marketing told folks they wouldn't/couldn't carry the virus, nor spread it. So, any reporting from the health care services isn't going to be representative of what that population now looks like, does it.

And the more problematic part is this. How are the unvaccinated becoming infected?

 

So, first, the first answer doesn't actually address the issue, it deflects to those hospitalized. It doesn't deal with our articulate a response about the actual question which was the ability of vaccinated folks to carry the virus and spread it. Why can't we deal with that one first?

Second, Here's the thing. We have several studies now that articulate my response. Mask wearing doesn't protect folks. In any demonstrable way. It certainly hasn't protected the unvaccinated from becoming infected, has it? Explain, for example, those kids, wearing masks in school, who weren't vaccinated, but still became infected. Also, you use a sketchy analysis here. When you say "unvaccinated are getting sick at higher rates", you have no actual data for it. You have zero idea of the actual population that are sick, because, frankly, LOTS of folks who are already vaccinated, aren't getting tested, at all. For lots of reasons. So, if they are carrying, (and sick) you wouldn't know it from the statistics you assert here.

 

Not in Israel.

 

I did not argue measures should not be taken to reduce the spread.
The question is exactly what that means and what sort of things would be implemented. I just question whether coercing or putting pressure on people to take the vaccine is going too far.

 

And yet also ironically, if another variant appears, the vaccine will probably be even less effective against it.

 

In Israel too. The proportion of the unvaccinated being hospitalised is much higher than the proportion of the vaccinated being hospitalised.

 

The UK do have figures comparing hospitalisation and death rates of vaccinated and unvaccinated and shows a huge difference for those under 50

 

don't believe that nonsense

 

the only thing that is correct is this

"Physical distancing measures remain critical to reduce SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant transmission."

"Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020"

get the vaccine, cause everyone will catch this delta variant eventually, it's too contagious, all social distancing will do is slow it down a little, maybe enough so hospitals do not overflow

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

 

even Trump is now out there pushing the vaccine

"Donald Trump recommends people to 'take the vaccine'"

Trump : "I recommend take the vaccines. I did it. It’s good. Take the vaccines"

 

it's not that the vaccine is less effective, it's that this variant is more contagious, that is what makes it so much worse