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  1. AboveAlpha

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    It was the last installment to fulfill a debt owed to a friend.

    Read how I walked down what the IDF claims...and IS....the most dangerous road in the Palestinian Territories ALL BY MYSELF!!

    I was wearing Military Gear with an AMERICAN FLAG on my right shoulder.

    I think they were so surprised I was walking there they simply didn't know what to make of me! LOL!!!!

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    I HAVE re-evaluated. I've previously posted evidence on here supporting the claim that it was IMPOSSIBLE for Assad to have carried out the attacks.
     
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    I thought I might mention I met one of the TOUGHEST WOMEN I HAVE EVER KNOWN in Israel.

    She didn't know who I was at the time we met nor did she know I was American but under that body armor was 100% ALL WOMAN!!! LOL!!!

    I don't exactly know what led to this but I was standing with a drink minding my own business and the next thing I know she is slapping me HARD on my shoulder challenging me..."NOT SPEAKING IN ENGLISH EITHER"....to an ARM WRESTLING COMPETITION!!

    Now all the times I have been to Israel I realized at THAT MOMENT.....I had NEVER seen either men or women ARM WRESTLING!!!

    But she basically challenged me...is this some form of courtship or what?

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    Its like you compete with yourself on how extreme your ideas can get,
    Typical of Muslims to say we'll tolerate your rights only when we control you, Arabs wouldnt have lost any land if they left the Jews alone, to call holocaust refugees "greedy and brutal' is disgusting fanatic propaganda, you so got what you deserve it cant be called anything else but Karma,

    The children of Jihad, 8 year olds under the guidance of Hamas saying the ultimate goal is to DIE fighting Israel - that's a few days ago
    http://www.mako.co.il/news-world/arab/Article-bffd71268743641004.htm?sCh=31750a2610f26110&pId=237936823

    In a few years Israel will cut itself off from the WB and Gaza and let either create a real state or drown in their own fanatic hatred.
     
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    Assad did use Chemical Weapons.

    NO DOUBT!!

    WE KNOW IT.
    RUSSIAN'S KNOW IT.
    FRENCH KNOW IT.
    BRITS KNOW IT.
    GERMAN'S KNOW IT.
    JORDANIAN'S KNOW IT.


    EVEN ASSAD KNOW S WE KNOW THAT HE KNOWS THAT WE KNOW HE USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS!!!

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  6. Gilos

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    IMPOSSIBLE! wow that's very desicive, where you there or did you use it to say he didnt ?
     
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    Notions of Jewish exclusivity pertaining to a Jewish State on the one hand, and claims of liberal democracy within said State on the other, is a contradiction in terms. The same is not applicable to self-proclaimed Islamic States' because they do not claim to be anything other than they actually are.
     
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    How about a report on Syria's August 21, 2013 gas attacks by two authentically credible figures like Richard Lloyd and Theodore Postol?

    Lloyd is a former United Nations weapons inspector who in two decades at Raytheon, a top military contractor, wrote two books on warhead design. He has written a critique of the Israeli Iron Dome anti-missile system for engineers and weapons designers. In March 2013, the New York Times noted that Lloyd 'has the credentials for a critique'.

    Postol is a professor and national security expert in MIT's Program in Science, Technology and Society. In 1995 he received the Hilliard Roderick Prize from the American Association for the Advancement of Science and in 2001 he received the Norbert Wiener Award from Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility 'for uncovering numerous and important false claims about missile defenses'. Postol has a proven track record in, for example, debunking Pentagon claims on the success of its Patriot missile system.

    In September 2013, the New York Times described Lloyd and Postol as 'leading weapons experts'.

    Their January 14 report titled, 'Possible Implications of Faulty U.S. Technical Intelligence,' examines US government claims regarding the August 21 chemical weapons attacks in Damascus. The report finds that the range of the rocket that delivered sarin in the largest attack that night was too short for the device to have been fired from Syrian government positions, as claimed by the Obama administration.

    Using mathematical projections about the likely force of the rocket &#8211; which has been variously described as 'a trash can on a stick' and 'a soup can' &#8211; Lloyd and Postol conclude that the device likely had a maximum range of 2 kilometres, or just more than 1.2 miles. The 'trash can' was not capable of flying the 6 miles from the centre of the Syrian government-controlled part of Damascus to the point of impact in the suburbs, as claimed by the US government, nor even the 3.6 miles from the edges of government-controlled territory. Lloyd and Postol comment in their report:

    'This indicates that these munitions could not possibly have been fired at east Ghouta from the "heart" or the eastern edge of the Syrian Government controlled area depicted in the intelligence map published by the White House on August 30, 2013.

    'This faulty intelligence could have led to an unjustified US military action based on false intelligence.

    'A proper vetting of the fact that the munition was of such short range would have led to a completely different assessment of the situation from the gathered data.'

    Postol adds:

    'I honestly have no idea what happened. My view when I started this process was that it couldn't be anything but the Syrian government behind the attack. But now I'm not sure of anything. The administration narrative was not even close to reality. Our intelligence cannot possibly be correct.'

    Lloyd, who has carefully studied weapons capabilities in the Syrian conflict, rejects the claim that rebels are less capable of making these rockets than the Syrian military:

    'The Syrian rebels most definitely have the ability to make these weapons. I think they might have more ability than the Syrian government.'

    Lloyd and Postol have made clear that they are not arguing that the rebels were behind the attack, but instead pointing to the flawed assessments behind US claims.

    http://www.medialens.org/index.php/...lity-filtering-sources-on-the-syrian-war.html
     
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    Gilos....I will TELL YOU....what the ULTIMATE GOAL of Hamas is.....to act in a manner that will ensure HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONETARY AID keep flowing in as the Hamas Leadership lines it's pockets with such AID.

    Why do you think Hamas and Fatah fight so much....BECAUSE THEY COMPETE TO BE ABLE TO POCKET MONETARY AID that is supposed to be used to develop Palestinian Infrastructure.

    And Israel....SAME DEAL!!!

    Israel PURPOSELY P!$$ES US OFF and threatens to pull out of peace talks and continue to build settlements...BUT....of course if the U.S. PRIVATE SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL....were to say...send money to the.....LINE MY POCKETS FOUNDATION...as well if the U.S. Congress would continue to send BILLIONS IN MONEY, WEAPONS AND USE OF U.S. AGENCY INTEL.....perhaps Israel might see our way to....talk.

    Forgive me...I know that Israel is an important U.S. Ally but I have just HAD IT!!!

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    Never heard of CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIRED FROM HOWITZERS???

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    Not that by itself but the drinks that follows....

    So did you let her win ?
     
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    I'm merely reporting the evidence as outlined by U.S experts in the field. If you've got contradictory evidence I'm all ears.
     
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    What jewish exclusivity ? and you couldnt be more wrong regarding Muslim countries, they already kicked the Jews away, the poor few that remained are Muslims basiclly, their kids marry Muslims, but so few remaind and they are so terrified its hard to survey them, Christians however are easier and I dont think evidance is needed to survey what they go throu in some places.
     
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    You didn't understand my post.
     
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    Its not all about the money, there are some principls that both Israelis and Palestinians will never "sell" like Jerusalem, that's the reason there will not be peace but the money does justify pretending peace is possible,

    Once the Americans and Europeans will grasp peace is not an option perhaps the money will cease as well and ppl will have more say on who reprisents them,

    I saw "dallas buyers club" yesreday, the line that got me was instead of trying to cure the disease and destroying the body while trying to - tend the symptoms and ease the sick, the disease will never go but its possible to live with it. I think its the same way with the Israeli-Palestine fued, there will always be a struggle and ppl will alwys die from it but conditions for normal lives should always be possible for those who seek it - and it is if you check Ramalla for example, it could be extended to other places, if they want war - we have an answer for that as well.
     
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    HELL NO!!!

    I let her think she was winning as I grimaced and groaned and VERY SLOWLY let her get to the point my wrist was about 4 to 6 inches from the table.....THEN i JUST KEPT IT THERE....AND KEPT IT THERE....AND KEPT IT THERE.....she REALLY started getting P!$$ED....so I started smiling and would not move.

    So she KNEW at that point I was playing with her....but I WILL SAY....for a woman she really was STRONG!!

    Probably the strongest woman outside of Sky I have ever known!!

    So she realized I was just holding my arm like that so she yelled something I didn't understand as my ability is that language is limited....and she tried to PULL MY WRIST AND ARM THE OTHER WAY!!

    But I was ready for that and she was really arm tired spending all that time and energy trying to pull me down....so when she pulled to force me to pin HER....I STILL didn't allow my hand or arm to move!!

    THAT...really upset her and with her other hand pushed someone's still half full shot glass into my lap as she tried to stand...BUT I STILL WOULD NOT LET HER GO!! LOL!!!

    It all went downhill from that point.

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    The EVIDENCE will support whatever REALITY the U.S. Administration want's it to support as NOW....Obama drew a line which was crossed so they are attempting to SAVE FACE by RE-WRITING REALITY to say Chemical Weapons in a few incidents were NOT used...specifically those incidents that occurred AFTER OBAMA drew a line Assad crossed.

    But take it from a person...ie....ME....who actually knows what the F@&# happened.....Assad used Chemical Weapons...MANY TIMES...both before and after Obama said if Assad used them again the U.S. would overtly supply Syrian Rebels and use U.S. Air Support to help them.

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    I believe you have a fairly clear idea what I am and what I do right.....need you to answer this so I can continue the question...OK?

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    I just said my dad has some 'jerusalemite' ancestry, meaning part of his origins are indigenous (these ancestors never left to my knowledge). And no my dad hasn't suffered at all from any 'greedy and brutal designs of European jewish immigrants'. My dad's family are proud zionists, they know they are better off in Israel than ever going back to Iraq or living in the palestinian territories of the west bank and gaza. They would be killed just for being jewish if they returned to Iraq or visited the west bank or gaza. Their quality of life in Israel is far better than living in Iraq, no doubts about it whatsoever. As I have said many times, many jews indigenous to the middle east were and are now more than ever proud Israelis. The Ottoman era is over, it wasn't as bad during ottoman rule, but once the pan arabists took over the countries, things got really bad for jews there. I have visited Israel and its an awesome place to visit, its my dad's land, we didn't steal anything. Its not perfect but its by far one of the most tolerant countries in the middle east. I would love to visit Syria, Iraq, and Iran, but its far too dangerous, plus I'm not allowed to enter Iran, which country is apartheid again? Iranians don't let jewish families leave, and they don't let israeli jews into the country.

    The only place in the middle east Jews are welcome is Kurdistan or parts of berber north africa, because its not pan arab or radical islamist. Kurds treated us well, maybe its because they are a minority as well and have suffered persecution from the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein. Kurds support Israel. There are even arabs that support Israel, including many israeli arabs who do not identify as 'palestinian arab' either, only as Israeli, because its their country too. They have full rights, same rights as jews. Berber majority countries like morocco or tunisia also treat jews decently for the most part, and many berbers there support Israel. Again, they empathize with us because of centuries of forced arabization and rule.
     
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    Trout, these experts are part of many other experts that investigated the scene, perhaps the US report wasnt accurate as for the source of the shells, perhaps it even "bended" facts to make it look decisive it was shot from Assad territory, it could have been shot from much closer area since at the time Assad forces were in combat with the rebels in that area,
    As your experts said they are only pointing to the faults at the US report, there were other reports from other countries including the UN that give evidence on that incident and while no one blames Assad directly, most western countries agree it was the regime responsibilty, even if the soldiers acted on their own behalf.

    I didnt find in your post anything that would make it "IMPOSSIBLE", only 2 experts that say the projectile coouldnt have come from where the US report said it came from (possibly the report only suggests an origin rather that being so decisive as you are)

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    I think so......
     
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    Sorry, but the experts in the field I cited trump any opinion you might have on the subject. This evidence, contrary to your assertion contradicts, rather than reiterates, the false propaganda (er, sorry, "intelligence") forwarded by the Obama administration.
     
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    OK...TRUST ME...when I say this....IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY!!! They are all saying...and I just was in charge of talks between ALL GROUPS...they are saying....SHOW ME THE MONEY!! SHOW US THE MONEY!!!

    You see at this point the hatred is SELF PERPETUATING!!!

    The Leadership on all sides LINING THEIR POCKETS WITH AID MONEY....wants the money to continue to FLOW!!!

    So....they continue to INCITE HATRED WITHIN THEIR POPULATION!!

    A few rocket attacks here....a few Israeli F-15E Mudhen's dropping a few bombs there....a few Hezbollah, Hamas or Islamic Jihad bombings salted in for good measure all over...and BAM! SOUPS READY!!

    But if a person really looks at what is going on...I mean REALLY LOOKS CAREFULLY.....they will see such bombings, attacks by rockets or aircraft....are half hearted Military and Terrorist activities not TOO OVER THE TOP to cause war or WORSE cause the United States to simply SAY ENOUGH AND TAKE OVER THE WHOLE DAMN REGION....and believe me this almost happened after 9/11....because as long as it is very limited attacks by both sides.....THE SPICE MUST FLOW!...uh...er...sorry that was Frank Herbert....THE CASH WILL FLOW!!!

    And you know what....just to DEMONSTRATE THIS....I wore a Uniform with an American Flag on my right sleave shoulder....and walked down what is called by the IDF...THE MOST DANGEROUS ROAD IN THE PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES.....and the Palestinian's CLEARLY SAW I was AMERICAN....AND THEY DID NOT BOTHER ME!!

    IN FACT THEY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE SURE NO ONE touched me!!!

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    Listen....I have no need to FORCE YOU to believe anything I say.

    I let my posting history speak for itself.

    Because of what I do every now and then I can..."PREDICT"....certain things and post them here without violating OPSEC or causing a RIOT within SOCOM....if you don't know what such letter represent take the time to Google them and I will give you a much better picture of what I am and what I do.

    Anyways...I have posted such..."PREDICTIONS" here many times and I have a 100% Success Rate with such predictions.

    There is a member here...Snakeskin...or something Snake....and at first he and I did not see eye to eye but I do respect a person to have their own beliefs.

    So we were arguing a point and an entire ISSUE....so I took the time to..."PREDICT"....an entire series of events that of course ALL CAME TO PASS and happened about 2 to 3 months after I "PREDICTED"...they would.

    The Probability of such an extensive 'PREDICTION"....come true and becoming FACTS and HISTORY is probably somewhere at 1 in 10^14.

    So....I respect your right to your beliefs...but I think after a while of keeping an eye on what I post about you will find I DON'T STATE OPINIONS AS FACTS....I POST FACTS....that simply are not publicly known yet to be facts.

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    They categorically said that U.S claims that Assad fired from where they said he fired, was an impossibility. Please cite these "many other experts" that apparently contradict their findings.
     
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    Cut the aid, im in favour for it, lets get back to basics and take over Gaza and WB cities, start from scrap.
     
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