George H.W. Bush Throws Cheney and Rummy Under a Bus

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    It was difficult for Dubya’s daddy to watch his son fail time after time. George Sr. watched the decades pass as everything Dubya touched turned to poo. He was a bust at Yale. Without his family name he would have been convicted of desertion from the National Guard. Every business venture had Dubya proving he was and is a dud.

    Finally, with the help of Brother Jeb and the conservative Justices of the USSC, Dubya was appointed POTUS in 2000. With this, George Sr. thought his little boy might turn his life around. But it was not to be. Eight MORE years watching Dubya screwing up.

    George Sr. was aware of Cheney’s and Rumsfeld greed, corruption, and lust for power, and they used George Sr’s idiot son as their ticket to plunge the nation into endless wars and trillions of dollars of debt.

    Now, as George Sr. approaches death, he is doing what he can to salvage some sort of positive legacy for his idiot son. George H.W. is telling the world what people of reason knew all along, that his son Dubya doesn’t have the brains to pound sand into a hole, and that the United States and the world owes a vote of thanks to Cheney, Rummy, and the rest of their criminal organization for the growing strength of al Qaeda and the Islamic State, and the Great Republican Recession of 2008. Plus the many other disasters that occurred from January 2001 through January 2009 that still plague this nation

    While he will never be able to repair his son’s pitiful legacy, George Sr. hopes telling the world some level of truth about Dubya’s corrupt administration will allow history to be a bit more forgiving of the Bush 43 debacle.

    There is nothing more moving than the love of a father for his son.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/05/u...-by-aides.html?_r=1&ncid=newsltushpmg00000003


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    Why is it that when Conservatives point out that ObaMao is an idiot the Libs quickly point out that he was elected as POTUS two times, but when Conservatives mention that about G.W. the Libs go apoplectic? :roll:
     
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    I always knew that the 43rds presidency was never run by the president. This only confirms it.
     
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    I got more than that out of the article. I sensed the spirit of true American Patriotism as once Bush 41 got to know Bill Clinton, the two of them developed a rapport of sorts. And I've come to understand even more that these men did everything in service of our country and everything to protect the interests of the United States of America.

    And as my own political knowledge grew, so too did my understanding and forgiveness of the Bush Administration. The war on Iraq was righteous, our execution left to be desired. Had we truly taken Iraq as Liberals speculated, there would not be an ISIS. Instead, we tried a failed "transition to democracy" that proved to be foolhardy. It was equally ambitious(if not stupid) to engage in civilian-building projects(such as the Housing bill, the education attempts, etc) in wartime as in peacetime.

    But I forgive GWB. He tried for America. That's more than we can say for easily the worst President in US History. "I don't negotiate with Republicans". It never got that bad between Bush and the Democrats.

    The Dems are responsible for electing the worst man for the job for two terms and the damage we'll have to undo as a result.
     
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    Yeah, like Kevin McCarthy and others in the GOP blowing the whistle on the Benghazi investigations, Daddy Bush wants the world to know his idiot son is only partly to blame for eight years of crises and the continuing debt and economic mess they caused.

    George Sr. is old enough now to know the truth can't hurt him, and Jeb's Presidential campaign is all but dead.

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    Really?

    Most Liberals, and non-Liberals, knew that stirring the hornet's nest would provoke unintended consequences. It's history repeating itself, at max volume!
     
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    Right-wingers just cannot understand the Islamic culture. They "think" showing the Muslim extremists that people can live together in peace if everyone just follows the theory of the ideal Christian. (Few Christians can live up to that standard.)

    It is that kind of narrow-minded stupidity that has has the U.S. locked in conflict in the Middle East for decades. Hear this right-wingers, Muslims are as, if not more devout in their Islamic faith, as you are in your faith in Jesus. They want their countries back.

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    They've both been shot down: the ol' man in WWII and Slick Willy by any woman with a brain. :roflol:
     
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    No, what has us locked in conflict in the middle east is oil tycoon greed. Every issue that has ever arrisen in the middle involving the US has been about oil.

    1; We helped take out the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Prime Minister of Iran, and put a murderous dictator (The Shal) into power because he promised us oil. (The Iranian hostage crisis was retaliation on the US who had aided and supported the Shal during his reign.)

    2; We took out the Afghan government and put the Taliban in power because they promised us oil.

    3; We helped Saddam take power, and looked the other way for years as he slaugtered thousands, because he promised us oil.

    Name a middle eastern dictator or despot in the last 70 years, and chances are we put them in power and supported them in exchange for oil. Proving that the US does not care about freedom or democracy, since they gladly support despots if offered resources or money.
     
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    Iraq was divided along secular lines, when Saddam was deposed there was no way a democratic coalition would have succeeded(at least in the aftermath.) Iraq needed to be a US Protectorate, in a very similar manner to how it was once in Britain's domain(which started this whole mess. Britain's empire broke up in the 20th century, with mixed results. See: Ireland and Portugal as other examples of unrest. India stabilized recently in the 21st century.)

    When we failed to incorporate Iraq as a State of Interest, it allowed these uncouth developments to take their place. They would not have taken place in a progressive Iraq, which was the point of the war to begin with.(The President inherited a better situation in 2008, then the one he's leaving behind.)

    Of course, had we not armed the Libyan rebels we wouldn't be here either. The retreat has less to do with Iraq than arming the rebels. Then we destabilize Syria, gaining nothing in the process. Obama's worst than Bush on all accounts on foreign policy. The world is more dangerous today than 8 years ago.
     
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    Yes, but without the right wing remaining convinced the U.S. is bringing democracy and civility to the barbarians, even the naive Christian right would stop supporting the Republicans' wars-of-choice.

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    The Democrats have started their share of wars as well. LBJ took us into vietnam because he was promised a cut of the profits that the MIC would make, and there is some evidence that refusing to go into Vietnam was one of the reasons for JFK's assassination.
     
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    There again, it's always forgotten by right-wingers that it was Eisenhower who first involved U.S. troops in a country where we did NOT belong. The Viet Minh had pretty much taken their country back from the French, so of course, the United States felt the need to stick its military nose in where it didn't belong.

    Just as Western influence created al Qaeda and the Islamic State in the Middle East, our corporate heads were able to convince their servants in government to create the Viet Cong.

    The U.S. has proven it can serve corporate greed to create a population in most parts of the world that will hate our guts.

    Now, THAT'S CAPITALISM!

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    Why is it that all the Libs who (*)(*)(*)(*) & moan about 'Big Oil' drive a huge SUV? When all the Libs revert back to the horse I'll listen. Maybe even crap in an outhouse & use corncobs as well. Until then, the Libs need to clam up. :roll:
     
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    This must have been a kind of a "tough love" book for Papa George to write about his son.
     
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    Liberals will never understand that when a conservative is asked a question they try to give their honest opinion. Liberals also don't understand that when conservatives label other conservatives unflattering names conservatives don't take it personal.
     
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    funny though how the economy vastly improves under Obama but how its gets screwed under Bush
     

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