German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer: 'Islam doesn't belong to Germany'

What does a belief in an Imaginary Friend spouting Rules in Magic Books have to do with a citizen being concerned about society?

This is the 18th Century. Educated people in the 21st Century might consider the possibility of a deity, but not one who helps you cheat death if you're good or knows your thoughts.

 

Again ... all bla bla bla BS from the New Testament where no Christian really cares for, but ignoring that thr Old Testament is in full use and declared to be full valid for Christian too! And if any Christian wants to reason any violance by his Religion, he uses what? Right!!!

And the difference of Islam is that the governemnts and dictators are not split from Religion ... no they are King and Pope in one Person!

 

Not sure I follow your logic. Most Christians view Islamic doctrine as false.

 

If Muslims were the only peoples believing in an Imaginary Friend, it might give them pause. The same is true for other folks believing in religious claptrap.

Christians aren't benign. Mississippians just passed a law banning abortion, even for rape and incest. Their Imaginary Friend told 'em to do it.

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/03/the-eu-turkey-deal-europes-year-of-shame/
source says: nope

 

yeah well... I'm unable to add IQ to you.

 

By Al Qaida. And all of them groups combined are just utterly tiny compared to the bulk of the Muslim population.
And it's you who fail to understand that all muslim nation are at war with these folks. Fatwa's by the worlds religious leaders have been made,... but you claim to know their religion better... for the sake to push your hate agenda... lol

 

Oh, I forgot my hate agenda. 1 march criticizing Islam 1 september buy a new ss officer uniform 30 december : Conjure Satan. *evil laugh*.

Like I told you, it's shades of extremism. Some countries like Nigeria, Mauritania or Pakistan may fight some more extremist jihadist, they still punish by death apostasy. Killing someone just because he withdraw from a religion, especially a religion he is born in, qualify those people as fundamentalist.
Soviets fought nazis. Does it make soviet regime a moderate regime ?

Somehow, something that reassure me is seeing that more and more former muslims especially in former muslim countries raise their voice to criticize this religion with intelligence.

 

You dont go from 111.000 Muslims who are actually registered (2014) to 810.000 (2017) in 3 years.
The only way PEW is able to go like that, is account anybody form the ME as a Muslim.
As far you know, it could be Christian refugees from Syria.

 

When you only eyeball 1 sentence and deliberately ignore all the rest, than you have absolutely no clue what the context is. That is beyond obvious. But you only keep on going like that, even though you've been proven actually wrong, because it serves your agenda of hate.

 

Pfff... in the US, a police officer... according the statement “Fearing for his safety, the deputy discharged his duty weapon, striking Thomas once in the chest,”. And that is how he executed an unarmed black man with his pants down in the middle of the street. That crap happens all the time, while little children are being blown to pieces in school. You would think cops should kill less unarmed black people who are no danger to anybody and protect more children... but hey. It's a dog eat dog world there.

But good for you to move the goalpost on terrorism, when you lost that argument.

 

Okay, this has nothing to do about with the topic we're talking about. Police brutality in USA and fundamentalism in Islam aren't related. The USA have problems too, I'm aware.

You won't learn me there is evil everywhere, and there is good people everywhere.

The fact that 1000 per million are killed each year in Honduras doesn't make corruption in china not a problem, corruption in china doesn't make police brutality not a problem, police brutality in USA doesn't make brutality on police in USA not a problem, brutality on police doesn't make fundamentalism in Islam not a problem.

And right now, I must admit that I feel personnaly more concerned by the risk of a civil war or more bombings than to be shot by american police.

Islam can't be separated from violence. Everywhere there is Islam, there is even more fundamentalist people who will start jihad. There is almost no country with muslims who are spared by this problem.
I found a map who don't even consider Europe so is non complete :



Beyond terrorism, islamic hijab create a problem. A french imam, Rachid Abu Hudeyfa declared :
"Hijab is women prudishness. And without prudishness, women have no honour. If women get out without honour, she shouldn't be surprized that brothers, that people who belong to men abuse this woman". Our leaders, who kept from the 40's a custom to work the most disgusting people gave him a "secularism prize".
We can remember too that Egyptian lawyer who declared "It's a national duty to rape women in revealing clothes".

So yes, the problem of islamic violence isn't only related to jihadism.

 

We were talking about terrorism, and you moved the goalpost to customs... so I'm just making a just comparison to that.

Everywhere people are, there is violence. Period. But it's the Americans who are far more violent than others. If they aint killing unarmed black people with or without pants down, shooting up schools, than they are usually busy raging some war across the planet or at least supporting a massacre.

Do I need to remind you there are far and FAR more Americans with a felony conviction than Muslim terrorists, percentage wise?

 

You're preaching to the choir brotha, he's French. Not fans of us Americans, those guys.

 

Tell me who signed the deal.

Look dude, Merkel simply did fly to Turkey and made the deal with then turkish foreign minister and then the EU agreed

http://www.spiegel.de/international...th-turkey-in-danger-of-failure-a-1092331.html

 

At least you tried?

 

A lot of french are not big fan of american, but, me, I rather like them.

 

American have a homicide rate of 4,8, when El Salvador have a homicide rate of around 100 (the rates are per 100 000). So yes, USA are much more violent that let's say Japan (0,31 but a very high suicide rate), or Austria (0,51) but they're much less violent than a bunch of countries. For instance, Mali, Mauritania, Irak, Pakistan, Qatar who have all a homicide rate around 8.
So yes american are more violent than others, but there is many more violent than them. They're around half the ranking.

You can't seriously a guy who steal a TV to a guy who will go shoot some kufr. At least, compare things that can be compared.

 

So Christians following Christian doctrine leads to more babies being born alive as opposed to killed in the womb. While muslims following Islamic doctrine leads to the deaths of unbelievers.

 

Happens that the strongest Country in the EU takes the steering wheel to get things solved!

And no ... I am not happy about this deal really, even it really helped so far, but Erdogan is simply a bastard and no deals with such scum!

 

The deal is a joke.

1. No souvereign country should outscource its border protection. Merkels policies are so degenerated that she is too weak to do the hard things herself.

2. the deal was never working, what worked was this nice little fence in Idomeni



A fence that the hordes tried to storm. The free money from Germoney called them



In the end teargas and massive border protection pushed the hordes back to the shithole they came from.

 

A literal interpretation isn't a change. Your tortured and twisted interpretation would be the change.

Ibn Khaldun was an Arab historiographer and historian. He is claimed as a forerunner of the modern disciplines of historiography, sociology, economics, and demography.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun

An Arab scholar. An academic, not an "Islamist", whatever in the hell that means. He was a Muslim. Writing on the authority and legitimacy of the Islamic Caliphate applying Islamic doctrine as law.
"Ibn Khaldoon defined it as: A representation, of the one who has the right to adopt the divine rules, aimed at protecting the Deen and ruling the world (Dunia) with it.

Or Al-Mawardi, an Islamic Scholar
Abu al-Hasan Ali Ibn Muhammad Ibn Habib al-Mawardi ( أبو الحسن علي بن محمد بن حبيب البصري الماوردي ), known in Latin as Alboacen (972-1058 CE), was an Islamic jurist of the Shafi'i school most remembered for his works on religion, government, the caliphate, and public and constitutional law during a time of political turmoil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mawardi

defined it as: Succession of the Prophethood aimed at protecting the Deen and ruling the world (Dunia).

Or al-Banna Founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, the largest political party in the Islamic world- "Jihad is an obligation from Allah on every Muslim and cannot be ignored nor evaded.... It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet."

They didn't change anything, they read it. In Arabic and applied a literal interpretation, avoiding the tortured and twisted interpretations. Sunni Muslims view the first four Caliphs as the "Righty Guided" Caliphs. First action of the first Caliph was to wage the Wars of Apostasy against their own fellow Muslims who stopped paying Zakat to Mecca when Muhammad died. Forcing upon them submission to Islamic Law. Within 80 years the Caliphate was waging violent jihad in Afghanistan to the east and Spain to the west, seeking to force the people to submit to Islamic rule. The likes of Al Qaeda and ISIS didn't change anything. They are slavishly adhering to Islams original form as written in the Koran and Hadiths. Original form as practiced from 632 until the 1920s in the succession of Islamic Caliphates that ruled for about 1300 years of Islams 1386 years of existence in this world.

 

Do I need to tell you, Pilgrim, there is no such thing as a "baby" in the womb? Babies are born people.

Can't you people MYOB and not try to shove Bible claptrap down our throats? Hey, if you don't like abortions, don't have one.

Yeah, well, you won't find me down at the mosque. They share your problem of being unable to MYOB, only their behavior is arguably worse.

 

My source says the EU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union–Turkey_relations#EU-Turkey_deal_on_migrant_crisis

 

Who of the EU made it. The EU itself can do ****.



This deal is a shame for my country. Out scourcing our borderprotection. But this happenes when you let women im charge.