Germany will sell Saudi Arabia 100 war ships

It was made public today that Saudi Arabia ordered more than 100 military boats coast guard ships in germany. The deal is worth almost 1.4 billion € and has the full support of our government. Internal documents show, that chancellor Merkel plans a "Hermes Bürgschaft", that means that our government guarantees the delivery:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deuts...foerdert-deal-mit-saudi-arabien-a-950648.html

 

Dinky little patrol boats that are suited to the Baltic are (with the addition of air conditioning) appropriate for the Persian Gulf.

These ships aren't pushing technology and there is no reason Germany cannot meet delivery schedules.

 

At least they have the money to fix them after they break, because like every German product, they're EXPENSIVE to maintain=)

 

1.4 billion for 100 ships. . .yeah not to worried about those ships.

 

That's not a war ship. THIS is a war ship...

 

I think the OP should call them "slight disagreement ships".

 

This is not a war ship, thats submarine bait. Germany is the only nation capable today to fire a cavitation torpedo which can rip an american aircraft carrier into two parts with one hit. Those aren´t for export though.

As for the boats. Its patrol ships and they are mostly used from coast guard.

 

You're actually trying to compare the military strength of Germany to the US?

 

No, i´m comparing technology.

Our Type 212 submarine can´t be detected from any of your aircraft carries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_212_submarine

And our Superkavitierender Unterwasserlaufkörper reaches speeds under water about 400 km/h. It is not stopable with current technolgy and can be controlled.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superkavitierender_Unterwasserlaufkörper

We are talking about germany here. You can´t compare your "technology" with the stuff we develop.

That has nothing to do with military strength. We develop and sell. It has a reason why we are called "export master of death".

Your nation isn´t known to be great engineers. Thats our strength. We develop what our customers demand and we sell for the highest price.

I heared alot of your soldiers in iraq ended with a german DSR-1 bullet in their heads. It was tragic, but who could have known that Saudi Arabia gives them to the iraqi insurgents?

As for the 202, that submarine managed to come as close as 100 meters to an american aircraft carrier, undetected. It was only spotted when it came to the surface.

So please, don´t compare your antiquated trash with real art of engineering. You talk with a german here. The fact that you mistake technology with military power proves enough for me.

 

I have news for you - it is not a job of an Aircraft Carrier to detect a submarine, or fight it.

I'll see your little dinky U-boat with it's superfast torpedo, and raise you a couple of LAMPS, a couple of frigates and a few attack subs, which are normally tasked with protecting an aircraft carrier. Not to mention sub-hunting helos

 

Markus,

This is an English-language forum. There's not much point in posting links to articles written in German.

 

...and Aegis-class destroyers and other sub-hunting aircraft...

 

Did not want to rub it in to Markus, plus Aegis is normally busy with air threat...

 

I wonder then why the entire carrier group did not detect it? What went wrong? all the frigates and subs that guarded the carrier did not detect it. Main reason why israel did buy them and considers them the backbone of their 2nd strike capability. as i said, german tech. thats beyond your imagination.

we are engineering gods, Its that simple.

 

Provide us with the link to the event you're talking about, and we'll talk.

 

happened in 2007


http://www.abendblatt.de/politik/au...foto-das-einen-US-Admiral-wuetend-machte.html

 

Russia has SuperCav torpedoes, but regardless each one of those little birds on the deck of the CVN has a range much longer than the barracuda. They are a very close-range weapon.

 

The USN has been "playing tag" with British, German, Swedish, and Australian battery subs for two decades.

While you can bet the USN bubbleheads know exactly how to deal with the battery boats, the general idea is let the battery boats handle the littoral waters (where the carriers don't go anyway) and the USN nukes will control the pelagic seaways.

As for the carrier battle groups, simply operating at the speeds required of launching and recovering planes makes them too fast moving for battery boats to close them enough to launch weapons.

 

in short, U24 broke through the defense ring unnoticed from american subs, frigates and the carrier itself, brought itself in perfect target position, fired a simulation torpedo and made a picture of the carrier before coming to the surface. Your own admirals admit that this submarine caülass combined with the torpedo are not detectable at the moment, In real war your Enterprise would break apart in the center and sink.

 

theirs are not controleable. ours is.

 

A nice story, but anecdotal. Look, no one is taking away from the German engineering. But were we in a conflict, I'd bank on an American Navy. Glad we're allies, though.

 

Why is the OP choosing to pit Germany against the US right now? That's stupid.

 

Okay this proves you have no clue to what you are talking about. They damn sure do detect subs. Please do not make the rest of America look dumb with these comments. Hell half the technology we have is from World War 2 the other half came from Japan. Go read history.

 

Yours also has a small warhead so I doubt one would rip an American aircraft carrier into two parts with one hit, but even if it could, your country would be destroyed before most of your population knew of the success.

 

A Mk. 48 ADCAP will rip any ship afloat in two.

Lesson of many SINKEX exercises:
You wanna fill a ship with smoke - hit it with a cruise missile.
You wanna fill a ship with water - let a Mk. 48 break her in two.