get your vaccination and your booster shot

What I said is objectively correct, if you can find him disagreeing then yes.

 

Yes, healthier people in general are less likely to contract any illness. But with respect to a pandemic, what Johns Hopkins is claiming is also objectively true.

Protect yourself and others by being vaccinated.

 

Not necessary if you live healthily.

 

Name calling is not an argument of any sort.

A holy link is not a valid argument of any sort.

This is straight up "misinformation" (iow, a lie). It has been shown ad nauseum that people who get jabbed (whether 1 or 5 times) still get infected with COVID anyway. The CDC director and the Chief Puppet are two quick examples, and there are many many more.

Jabs do not reduce transmission. See above.

Jabs do not stop transmission. See above.

What is "severe COVID-19"?? How does it differ from COVID-19?

Continued BS on your part...

Some people subsequently develop pneumonia, which CAN kill if left untreated or not treated effectively. Some people have a predisposition to developing pneumonia after their immune system gets stressed via fighting any sort of cold/flu virus, while others don't.

So getting a slew of freedoms taken away from you by a tyrannical government, and then having some of those freedoms returned back to you IF and only IF you follow along after their bouncing carrot on a stick long enough, is a GOOD thing??

You also don't have to quarantine if you don't elect tyrannical government leaders who take away your freedom to travel.

See above.

Blatant "misinformation" (IOW, a blatant lie). Joe Biden was not protected from COVID... Rochelle Walensky was not protected from COVID. Jen Psaki was not protected from COVID. Most everyone who has been jabbed (whether 1 or 5 times) has "gotten COVID", just as most everyone who has been unjabbed has "gotten COVID"... there is no protection from it, and there is no benefit to getting jabbed for it.

Pfizer has openly admitted that their jabs have NEVER BEEN TESTED FOR the claims regarding protection that you are making about their jabs here.

 

So, you ignored his whole post?

 

Good debatin', my good friend!

So, you have no source, no logic and no facts. Just your own claims masquerading as "science".

Got it.

 

Great! Then promote healthy diets and lifestyles! Sounds good to me!

What is John Hopkins claiming?

"Misinformation" (IOW, a lie). COVID jabs offer no protection. People who get those jabs still end up getting COVID infections anyway. This is verifiable truth. See Joe Biden. See Rochelle Walensky. See Jen Psaki.

 

There is no debate going on here. There is only discussion. You seem to be unaware of what a debate is.

I've provided sources.

I've used logic.

Facts are not universal truths nor are they proofs. You have no clue what a fact is.

He's appealed to science, as have I. You are ignoring science in favor of The Science.

Yup, indeed I DO "got it".

 

~ Hard to believe anyone would make this statement today. Some fell out of the information loop long ago ...

 

John Hopkins is lying by omission, yes. They are doing you a disservice by not informing you that lifestyle choices can protect better than vaccination in most cases.

 

~ A disturbing message that is becoming increasingly normalized : lifelong dependency on pharmacology and "mandates" in order to move freely in society .
When COVID-19 "breakthrough" infection was considered a rare phenomenon, government officials, mainstream media, Big Pharma, and doctors backing the mRNA jabs quickly and defiantly shut down anyone who said breakthrough cases were evidence of vax failure — even though they were aware mRNA did not induce sterilizing immunity .
However, once it became clear to everyone that breakthrough infections were NOT RARE, but were a failure of immunity and the vaccinated were also infected with serious covid-19 illness, hospitalization, and death — the official messaging seemed to pivot. Officials took advantage of the situation as proof of the necessity for "booster doses" . It’s not that the "vaccine" does not work — it’s just that we all need MORE of them.
This continues today ...

 

*LOL*

Yes. You guys are credible "scientists" and Johns Hopkins is dumb and lies about Covid.

 

Sorry Charlie, but you don't have to be anything other than a capable "thinker" to see through all the obvious *lies* and made-up *bullshit* from monolithic run corporate medical institutions such as the FRAUDS at Johns Hopkins whose only goal is raking in billions, if not trillions of $$$$ for themselves.to keep the party going.

 

I AM a scientist.

Johns Hopkins is dumb and lies about Covid.

 

I'm from the days that if things got bad, you were given Buttercup Syrup. I'm on my 50's and today's generation probably go to the doctor more in a year then I've done in my life.

I only got the initial first two vaccines for holidays, which were all cancelled. So I've never bothered with booster. I'm about half way through a COVID infection, just loss of taste and smell, and chesty.

These bugs is just nature's way of cleansing the planet. It would be ironic and funny if COVID wiped out those that keep whinging at others to get vaxxed.

 

John Hopkins is not “dumb”. Neither are public health officials like A. Fauci etc.

Being intelligent and being honest are two totally different things.

Anyone who believes John Hopkins isn’t engaging in lies of omission in this case is a denier of science. The science is clear—a combination of healthy lifestyle choices is more effective at preventing infection and severe disease than vaccination alone.

If you are interested in the whole truth here’s one place I presented the concrete evidence. This post and the one immediately following it give a pretty good idea of some examples of lifestyle choices I’m talking about.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1073179590/

 

To each their own. I have been upfront with my personal experiences. The first booster (third shot of Moderna) made me sick AF and the first one caused me to have so noticeable heart flutters for a few days and then exhausted the hell out of me for weeks. I likened it to how people who are in heart failure describe their lives.

 

~ The grossly exaggerated Covid infection fatality rates, and the mainstream media fear-mongering stories of unvaccinated people dying from Covid were big pharma propaganda lies with no basis in truth.
Unvaccinated Covid fatality rates for people 59 and under are closer to 0.0003%, and 0.07% for 59–69 year olds, respectively.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.11.22280963v1

 

~ As the experiment continues ...

• Some healthcare workers vaccinated against COVID-19 show unexpectedly low responses to immunizations

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...xpectedly-low-responses-to-immunizations.aspx​

• Study sheds new light on the risk of rare blood-clotting condition after covid-19 vaccination

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...ing-Condition-After-Covid-19-Vaccination.aspx​

 

The vaxx deniers are religious in their beliefs.

 

No, they are very much the opposite.

Religion demands faith.

Those who deny the medical legitimacy and efficacy of the clot shots are not following faith. They are following the data as it comes in, and today have 2+ years worth of data.

Those who still buy into the Fauci claims are the ones practicing faith. They are gullible enough to believe Fauci when he claims to be Mr. Science, science personified.

There are many suckers born every minute.

 

Exactly.

 

Show me the science.

It has been my experience that anti vaxxers tend to be science illiterate and wouldn’t know real science if it bit them on the kiester

 

~ You are a testimonial to your own comment ...

 

Four words

Show
Me
The
Science