get your vaccination and your booster shot

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    You don't know what science is either.
     
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    A logic error was made and I pointed it out.
     
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    So that wasn't an answer. You claim "at lower rates" and didn't provide a citation. Why not? It's not like we're simply going to take your word for it. So, as noted, fully vaxxed and boosted folks still get the virus. In fact, because the virus is now more infectious, more folks are being infected. These are facts. More, folks are still getting sick, having symptoms, etc. The crazy thing is that the trade off the virus' higher infectiousness makes the virus less lethal. So, can you quantify the actual effect of the shots and the percentage of relief they provide? I have NEVER seen a calculation of this. Why? Because no one knows what that number is.

    So, scary thought, being vaxxed/boosted may have little if any effect in protecting you from the effects of the virus. And it may just be the virus burning itself out that is lowering the lethality rates.
     
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    The burden of proof isn't mine here, it's yours. You're claiming that sooooo many less jabbed people are getting infected, becoming symptomatic, and dying than unjabbed people. You're also claiming that sooooo many less jabbed people are spreading COVID than unjabbed people are.

    Show. Me. The. Science. ??? ;)
     
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    He's simply demonstrating as to what happens to people when they believe in all the pseudo science and the PSYCHO'logical insanity that's pumped into their heads from the "handpicked" and "controlled" corrupt institutions that are profiteering off their made-up viron and pandemic bullshit fantasy story.
     
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    Yup. "show me, show me, show me", "but I'm not going to accept it anyway because it counters the dogma of the Church of COVID".

    These people actually believe (well, they simply parrot this messaging... their fear tells me that they don't actually believe the messaging they mindlessly espouse, but anyway) these people "actually believe" that wearing a mask can somehow stop viruses from exiting out of the mouth of the mask wearer and into the outside air, yet those very same mask pores somehow cannot stop viruses from entering into the mouth of the mask wearer from the outside air. You "wear a mask for grandma", you see...... These are "magic one-way masks" apparently. :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    These same people also think that wearing a mask provides them protection from viruses, forming a paradox with the above messaging. They also demand that others wear a mask even though they are already wearing one themselves, which plays off of the same paradox.

    These are very irrational people.
     
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    From the CDC

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7105e1.htm


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    ~ This indeed seems to be the case. So far the great majority of infected/deaths are the vaccinated.
    What many ignore or don't realize is that mRNA Covid-19 vaccine was never double- blind studied/tested. There is no control group. There are no reliable statistics that can compare the non-vaccinated to the vaccinated.
     
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    The real scary thought is that the effects on vaxxed folks are now starting to appear in the populations. I suppose at some point, the pubic harmed must have a remedy, and suing folks like Pfizer and Moderna out of existence seems a likely outcome.
     
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    ~ I believe the Civil liability attorneys are going to seek constructive fraud as a way to make a case. Also there is growing evidence that US government agencies knowingly made misleading and false statements. This crisis could end up costing USA taxpayers billions ... :-?'
     
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    Show
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    That is a lie

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04516746
     
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    It looks like antivaxxers got the Democrats a senate seat in Nevada, and several close house seats. They did that by killing off far more Republican voters than Democratic voters.

    That trend will continue. There will be new COVID deaths, and the majority of them will be conservatives. Just look at the antivaxxers here, all living in a lunatic alternate reality. And those who have already had COVID and survived tend to die much earlier than those who never had COVID. That means there are a lot of ailing but alive conservatives who will croak soon.

    Antivaxxers helped the Democrats a great deal in 2022, and they'll help bring about a blue wave in 2024.
     
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    The TGA is still refusing to take excess deaths seriously - Senate Estimates 10.11.22 (AUS)


     
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    Genotoxicity tests still haven't been done - why not? - Senate Estimates 8.11.22
    Interesting questions and very interesting answers.



    Don't need a degree in medicine to smell this bullshit, that no test was done.
     
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    Canr get past the Iron Curtain here, at least OTHER countries are investigating it!
     
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    Yep

    "For months in Minnesota, over 70% of all events–infections, hospitalizations and deaths–have been in the vaxed or vaxed and boosted. Deaths in particular are heavily concentrated in the boosted, which is partly an age effect. "
    Dr. Jha Is a Worthy Successor to Fauci – Healthy Skeptic (healthy-skeptic.com)

    And yet, just yesterday the new guy in charge of COVID in the Fed government telling everyone to get vaxed so-

    "We can prevent every covid death in America"
     

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    :steamed: ~ I guess that you like to pop bubbles. Some people like mamooth are so hopeful — then you come along with facts ... :rage:' :disbelief:"
     
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    Make that the USA, not just Minnesota

    Vaccinated people now make up a majority of covid deaths - The Washington Post
     
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    Yeah, you can. Just don't take that sh!te they call a covid vax.
     
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