get your vaccination and your booster shot

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  1. (original)late

    (original)late Banned

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    You really should go live in a country that meets your standards, or should I say lack of same?


    How about Somalia?
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    This is the best country on the planet. Only the government fails to meet my standards. The rest of America is just fine.
     
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    I wouldn't buy it either. They're taught first and foremost to not trigger vaccine hesitancy. So let's say it was an unusual reaction and you tell 5-10 friends not to get the booster because of your experience. If it's tied back to them, they get in trouble. So they mostly pee in the wind with their b.s. excuses.

    On the other hand, a friend of mine who is a hospital ward clerk got his first dose last July. Felt ill a few hours later, blanked out, woke up in an ambulance and was wrapped in an ice blanket, passed out again and 6 hours later woke up in hospital. The doctor said "Whew, we thought we lost you!" and then "do not take dose #2!" He didn't.
     
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    The first dose exhausted me for about three weeks and then went away. The second dose made me sick a couple days then I had a mad rush of energy for about 5 days after. The third dose put me in bed a week. Now the reason I don't buy that the latter was proof is because the dose would have had to have contained COVID for it to trigger the response as they alleged. Anyway, actually having COVID wasn't nearly as long down as with dose 1 nor as bad as it was with dose 3. I was mad snotty but I think everything else was a byproduct of being isolated for several days with nothing to do and nothing good on TV so I slept way too much. Sleeping too much is worse for me than not sleeping enough.
     
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    I caught Covid in April 2021. Sick for about a week.
    It's been about a year. No vaccination.
    How have I survived this long w/o getting sick again?
     
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    Well the first 7-10 days your immune system is suppressed making you more susceptible to Covid. You might have gotten it. After Omicron, I don't think I will take another booster. Antibodies from COV1 are still around 18 years later.
     
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    I haven't caught COVID. It's been over two years now. No vaccination.
    How have I survived this long w/o getting sick?

    I didn't "follow the rules" either... no mask, no social distancing, visited friends/family all the same... quite remarkable that I survived the "dark winter" of "hospitalization and death", ain't it?
     
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    No. Way.
    You must be lying.
    :)
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Does the immune system "burn out" if vaccines are used? Can you cite where you got that info from? I've never heard it before and frankly it makes little sense.
     
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    Not my argument - it was the argument made in Court on the basis that ordinarily Courts have deemed a processing rate of 500 pages a month to be a reasonable amount, given that FOIA requests refer to specific documents which obviously have to be sourced, checked, collated, and so on and so forth, in addition and on top of the workload relating to any and all other FOIA cases which are also having to be fulfilled, further to other requests by other parties, with only a set number of personnel, etc. In short, the argument referred to the norm in context of this particular FOIA request which is far and away not at all the norm, in terms of size. Hence the judge was in fact sympathetic to this argument but ruled for a much higher output due to public interest.
     
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    Annual influenza vaccination results in decreased effectiveness of subsequent influenza vaccinations. I’ve posted extensively on the subject. Here are some of those posts. There is an in depth discussion of the topic in this thread starting with a meta analysis in the linked post.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1073041030/

    A similar phenomenon was seen with HPV vaccination. A two dose course was very effective, but a third and fourth dose actually decreased efficacy.

    The only evidence so far that Covid vaccines may exhibit this same fate is the fact the fourth booster isn’t showing much improvement in protection over a third Covid vaccination. Hopefully Covid vaccination doesn’t turn out like influenza vaccination. Annual influenza vaccination in young healthy people destroys efficacy in their old age when people need protection from influenza most. We will have to wait and see, but it’s something to watch for.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The virus didn't skip them, the clot shots did compared to other countries. The shots are bioweapons. It seems the African countries realize that while western governments are in on the scam.
     
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    I would say that the FAA could be justified because when the Constitution was written men were not flying yet. More compelling is that it is appropriate that airspace be controlled by the federal government instead of a patchwork system with each state controlling airspace.
     
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    The CDC is one of the major advances in the history of healthcare, and nobody and nothing could even come close to doing it.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right, and Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman, and the Russians stole Hillary's election.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I think the function belongs in the private sector.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Again we disagree. There IS a legitimate function for government don't you think? Managing the airspace in a country this large is one of them.

    Privatization, which I once supported, has proved to be just another variation on fascism.
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    Of course.

    "The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is the federal agency mandated with protecting the health of Americans. Among the world’s preeminent health agencies, it plays a crucial role in fighting disease globally, conducting cutting-edge research and acting as a first responder in crises such as outbreaks of the Zika virus in South America and Ebola in West Africa.


    It is considered by many to be the gold standard for national health agencies and has a wide global reach, with staff in dozens of countries.

    The CDC has a broad mandate to address health, safety, and security threats both at home and abroad. Its roles include:

    • detecting and responding to new and emerging health threats, such as the spread of COVID-19 and other epidemics;
    • tackling the leading causes of death and disability for Americans, including heart disease and cancer;
    • promoting healthy communities and best health practices; and
    • developing the public health workforce.
    To accomplish this, the CDC carries out scientific research on new and ongoing threats, with more than two hundred specialized laboratories across the United States. It is also often the primary U.S. agency communicating critical health information to the public.

    “Quietly and effectively, the CDC projected American competence and leadership,” wrote Sudip Parikh, chief executive officer of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, for STAT in 2020. “Around the world, public health agencies across Asia, Africa, and Europe are called ‘CDC,’ despite the fact that the acronym may be meaningless in the home language.”

    A principal aspect of the CDC’s global reach is its field epidemiology program, through which it trains what it calls “disease detectives” in the United States and abroad. With more than ten thousand graduates, the program has produced many of the world’s leading epidemiologists."
    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-does-cdc-do

    You need sources that aren't utter crap.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    There are 4 legitimate functions for federal government. They are defending the nation, dealing and treating with other nations, maintaining a stable currency and resolving interstate disputes. It does none of these things well. If we take away the rest of it we have a chance of having them do the basics better.

    Go read the definition and history of fascism. It is the opposite of capitalist business.
     
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    A person today who does not realize how utterly corrupt the CDC is has not been paying attention to the facts that have emerged in the last 2 years regarding the Center for Disease Control, illustrating clearly how the American people believe things that are false.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have offered the Webster definition of fascism here at PF many times, to no avail in your case. Mussolini practiced fascism and described it simply as corporatism. I think he would know better than you what fascism is.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I see how you would believe that since you tend to believe fascists and communists. Words do not say more than actions.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's not the words themselves, it is the concepts they describe.

    Though in this day and age here in the Land of The Free and Home of The Brave, certain words are verboten.
     
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    Project much?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, but I observe very well most of the time.
     

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