Global climate negotiations marred by revelations COP28 president planned to push oil trade deals

Title altered to fit.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-29/cop28-president-planned-to-use-position-to-make-oil-deals/103160038

Soooo - how does this affect the allegation that somehow the COP meetings are “to make money from alternate energy” or at least that there is no push from the fossil fuel industry to continue “business as usual”? It would have been a great opportunity for fossil fuels to look at transitioning instead of throwing up road block after roadblock

 

I'm just shocked anybody still cares.

 

Lots of oddities at COP28.
COP28 UN climate summit to officially target meat eating! ‘Nations will be told to curb their excessive appetite for meat’ to enforce UN plan for ‘food’s climate transition’
Guest Blogger
COP 28 UN climate summit planning Great Food Reset for USA! . . .

 

This is probably the best part of COP28.
Daily Mail: COP28 will be an Oil and Gas Contract Bazaar
Eric Worrall
Can you imagine a more hilariously ignoble end to the great push to green the global economy, than for the centrepiece of the green movement to transform into a giant…

 

More Malthusian madness... At some point, we have to start holding up these crazies for their mental deficiencies. Ask the simple questions. Why does someone like Bill Gates buy up millions of acres of farm land? Let Bill eat all the bugs he wants all by himself it if lets him sleep at night given his notorious reputation in his business life.... Washing his public image clean is going to take a lot more than eating a few bugs...

 

Some useful data for those advocating "transition" in energy:
COP28: Who Matters? — Follow-up
Kip Hansen
“China having a higher share of renewables each year, while also having a massive growth in overall electricity consumption. … What does this tell us about the type and amount…

 

Like the saying goes: SSDD.
Al Gore Ghosts Dubai 2023 with 1989 Alarm (What’s New, Pussycat?)
Guest Blogger
Al Gore might be the the slickest of the 70,000 expected at the United Nations’ Conference of the Parties (COP2 climate meeting in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) from November…

 

Perhaps the best thing that can be said of the COP gatherings is that they don't matter.
Get Ready for Another Pointless United Nations Climate Conference
Guest Blogger
One thing rising faster than world energy use is COP attendance. . . . .

". . . . Not that it matters much, anyway. There is little evidence that the annual COP climate conferences held over the last 27 years have had any effect on the climate. Data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration shows that the concentration of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere continues to rise steadily. In 2020, global industrial emissions of CO2 declined by over eight percent during the COVID-19 crisis, but this decline was undetectable in the rise in atmospheric CO2.


Nor has there been any significant change in energy consumption. World energy consumption has tripled since 1965. From 2004 to 2021, the world spent about $5 trillion to promote renewable energy and installed more than 300,000 wind turbines. But in 2021, coal, oil, and natural gas still provided 81 percent of global energy consumption, the same percentage as in 1999. The COP climate conferences can best be characterized as futile.


One thing rising faster than world energy use is COP attendance. About 5,000 attended each of the first five COPs, but this rose to over 27,000 for COP15 in Copenhagen and over 30,000 for COP21 in Paris. This year’s conference may have over 70,000 attendees, but “the sky’s the limit” for future attendance at this carbon dioxide-emitting event.

The United Nations describes climate change as “the defining issue of our time.” If we all live long enough, we may have to endure the 50th Conference of the Parties. And it will be just as futile and pointless then as it is now."

 

Given the source I doubt the validity or the truth

 

You don't trust Bloomberg News or The Guardian?

 

The hype is rising.
L.A. Times Should Publish Facts, Not Misinformed Opinions About Purported Climate Catastrophe
ALARMIST MESSENGERS/CLAIMS NOVEMBER 29, 2023

 

Ir they weren't some damn expensive under Biden's inflation regime I might eat a Big Mac for lunch tomorrow.

 

It's what politicians do. Hold lavish conferences in luxurious surrounds, Listen to/give pompous speeches - promising climatic armageddon unless we stop closing the atmosphere what 400ppm of CO2. The enjoy lavish meals, palatial accommodations, pat themselves on the back, and fly off in hundreds of private jets pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere in a couple of weeks that many third-world countries do in a year. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

COP28 is a blatherfest.
'Net Zero' Fails the Cost-Benefit Test
Bjorn Lomborg, Wall Street Journal

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India tells the alarmists to pound sand.
COP28: India doubles down on right to increase coal power and CO2 emissions
Guest Blogger
“India cannot survive without coal as it has no other options.”. . . .

 

Stupid is as stupid does.
No Amount Of Subsidies Will Ever Make A Wind/Solar Electricity System Economically Feasible
November 30, 2023/ Francis Menton

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  The COP 28 climate confab opened today in Dubai. Some 70,000 true believers in the energy transition are said to be gathering. And not one of them appears to be either willing or able to do the simple arithmetic that shows that this can’t possibly work.
  
  
• So far, no country that has made a commitment to “net zero” has officially backed off. (Argentina may soon become the first.). Things proceed as if all that is needed is to build sufficient wind and solar generation facilities, until eventually you have enough of them to meet demand.
  
  
• But that’s not how this works. The absurdity becomes more obvious every day. Can somebody please tell the poor people making fools of themselves in Dubai?
  
  
• Let’s consider the latest from Germany.
  

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Surprising to see the US making a sensible suggestion.
The Nuclear Option: A Pragmatic Shift at COP28
Charles Rotter
In a notable pivot at the COP28 climate talks in Dubai, over 20 nations, led by the United States, have advocated for a substantial increase in nuclear energy. . . . .

 

Jusst saw this on /wUWT! Reality at COP 28 - who would have thought! Although they're still talking 2050 to end fossil fuels. That;s a heck of a lot of nuke plants to build in such a short time. It can take years just to meet the regulatory requirements.
I may have to adjust my view of the COP crowd.

 

Not sure that's the biggest hit against COP. More concern about creating pseudo world government by controling energy sources and regulations as tools to control member nations'. economy activity.

 

Wow! Is Dr Strangelove still alive??

 

Oooo! My darling friend with the appropriate name- Charles rotter. He was in the “climate gate” leak up to his neck - interesting that the cache of files that was originally leaked had a Saudi IP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

The Saudis have been active in watering down IPCC reports as well

 

Yes.

Yes, he is. In spirit anyways.

 

Deflection filed under: "So What?"

 

Good I miss the talent of Peter Sellers

 

Saudis have been spreading disinformation for years - along with Exxon of course

https://insideclimatenews.org/project/exxon-the-road-not-taken/