Global warming scepticism

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    really, what's your point?

    if you don't post one, it makes you look like don't have one
     
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    so in other words, you can't provide how hot CO2 is. hahahahaahahhahhahahahahaha, ok. you claimed you knew but this appears to show you don't have the info you claim to have.
     
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    a thorough explanation was given in comment number 762
     
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    except in post 762, there is no mention of how hot CO2 is. for the umpteenth time, when it is 85 degrees F, How hot is CO2?
     
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    again with that ridiculous question

    who's buried in grant's tomb?
     
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    so you can't answer like I stated a couple of posts ago. so you have no idea how much heat is in CO2. Thanks for playing, I knew you didn't. made a claim and then not being able to back it up.
    grant.
     
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    i posted a thorough explanation of atmospheric heating dynamics and the greenhouse effect

    the claims i made about co2 trapping heat, were fully supported and referenced

    your temperature question is irrelevant, ridiculous and dishonest
     
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    my questions certainly are relevant and honest. It isn't I who claims that CO2 is like a sun and can magically heat the earth. So the question is a fair question based on the claim. Now you can simply state you don't have any idea. Is that the case? you don't have evidence that CO2 gets warm or how warm it gets? You'd think that someone using the scientific methodology would test and verify before announcing to the world that CO2 does that. So I'm still waiting or you can decline the question stating you don't have the material.

    Again, I posted the experiment that shows a jar full of CO2 doesn't get any warmer than one with atmospheric CO2. hmmmmmmm, and you call me dishonest.
     
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    i didn't claim that either, you're just making things up
     
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    you posted this:
    so how warm is CO2, you claim that humans are the cause of global warming, so sorry you did make the claim and now I expect you will provide your evidence or state you have no idea.
     
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    that's because they are, the video and scads of facts and evidence i posted make that clear
     
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    so then you make the claim that human CO2 makes the planet warm?

    So how hot is the human CO2?
     
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    your questions are getting more and more ridiculous
     
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    hey man, you're the one making the claim. I'm expecting you have data to support it. Do you or don't you, simple question. how hot is human CO2 that is causing the planet to warm?
     
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    you can keep asking ridiculous questions, but the facts have already been presented

    you were't able to refute of the science or evidence


     
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    so in your own words, you can't answer my question. So you do not know the temperature of CO2, therefore, I conclude, you have no knowledge that man is doing anything to the planet. Whew, that was long and drawn out to get here.
     
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    you seem to be stuck on a ridiculous tangent


     
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    I was asking you for an answer and you haven't given me one. so you obviously don't have one, so you can't back up your claim. So you now must agree that man is not doing what you originally claimed since you can't prove it.
     
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    i gave you numerous answers


    Global Warming Science

    The science is clear. Global warming is happening. We are the primary cause.

    Scientists know that certain gases trap heat and act like a blanket to warm the planet. One of the most important is carbon dioxide (CO2), which we release into the atmosphere when we burn fossil fuels — oil, coal, and natural gas — to generate electricity, power our vehicles, and heat our homes.

    As we overload our atmosphere with carbon dioxide, more and more heat is trapped — and Earth steadily warms up in response. How do we know? The scientific evidence is overwhelming.


    The planet's temperature is rising

    Trends in temperature readings from around the world show that global warming is taking place.

    Over the past 130 years, the global average temperature has increased 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit, with more than half of that increase occurring over only the past 35 years. The pattern is unmistakable: The 12 warmest years on record have all occurred since 1998 and every one of the past 37 years has been warmer than the 20th century average.

    Carbon dioxide levels are increasing in the atmosphere

    Detailed measurements of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) levels have been taken continuously for more than 50 years. The data show that CO2 levels have steadily increased every year. Today they are 25 percent higher than in 1957.

    What's more, scientists have detailed records of past CO2 levels from ice core studies, which show that CO2 levels are higher today than at any point since our distant ancestors began migrating out of Africa 800,000 years ago.


    Increased CO2 is the primary driver of global warming

    CO2 absorbs heat reflected from the Earth’s surface — heat that would otherwise pass freely into space. The CO2 then releases that heat, warming the Earth’s atmosphere.

    As CO2 levels increase, the pace of warming accelerates. Satellite measurements confirm that less heat is escaping the atmosphere today than 40 years ago. Though other heat-trapping gases also play a role, CO2 is the primary contributor to global warming.

    The climate has changed many times in the geologic past due to natural causes — including volcanic activity, changes in the sun’s intensity, fluctuations in Earth's orbit, and other factors — but none of these can account for the current rise in global temperatures.


    We are responsible for the increase in CO2

    Scientists can conclusively identify that human activity is responsible for the observed increase in CO2. How? The carbon dioxide emitted by burning coal, natural gas, and oil has a unique chemical “fingerprint" — and the additional CO2 in the atmosphere bears that signature.

    http://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/global-warming/science-and-impacts/global-warming-science#.VgsCrUvIrJw
     
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    Earth's atmosphere may be more efficient at releasing energy to space than climate models indicate, satellite data suggest

    It's a paper by an actual scientist, now you have to believe it.

     
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    except that temperatures are rising, so that may not be accurate

    and roy spencer isn't on the up and up
     
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    Oh, I forgot, he isn't one of the politically correct scientists and of course you make baseless claims with no proof. The only record showing temperatures rising is the recently fiddled one to make the hiatus disappear though it shows in all other records especially the pristine USCRN but I know, you can't trust science, you trust government.
     
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    he's associated with the heartland institute and denies the theory of evolution
     
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    So? Now your proof of wrongdoing. Come on. You can do it unless all you have is innuendo.
     
  25. dujac

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    so i've thoroughly debunked spencer before

    there's no need to do it again
     
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