Global wind capacity additions surged to a record high of 118GW in 2023

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Irrelevant.
     
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    You found another Low Fact propaganda site.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-the-news/

    Overall, we rate Just the News Questionable and Right Biased based on story selection that mostly favors a conservative perspective. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to numerous failed fact checks and the promotion of conspiracy theories and right-wing propaganda.
     
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    Yes, thanks for posting that link. You are correct that the plan states that there will be no impact on customer’s bills. But that’s not because costs are not involved. We’ve discussed Trust funds for decommissioning before. Customers paid for the decommissioning, they just paid in advance (OH that expensive nuclear power!). Also this site will now require 24/7 security, which is subcontracted to an outside firm, Orano. That costs a lot of money- creative accounting??? The site has abandoned coal plants, along with radioactive waste - a potpourri of loveliness!
     
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    You again attack the messenger to deflect from the facts. Does it ever bother you that others bring facts and reasoned arguments to the table while you (and others of like mind) only attack those who make the facts and reason available? That is the path toward obscurantism and away from enlightenment.
     
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    Customers or taxpayers fund everything.
     
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    Have you ever heard the story of the “Boy who Cried Wolf”? When you consistently post links from Low-Fact and Quackery websites, people start dismissing everything you post.
     
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    One of the many reasons why Nuclear is by far, the most expensive electricity on the planet…
     
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    No true. Why do you repeat falsehoods?
     
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    You are still attacking to deflect from the facts.
     
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    Low Fact and Quackery links are rated that way to warn visitors that FACTS are not likely.
     
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    . I’ve posted the link from the EIA website many times.
     
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    Those ratings reflect only the biases of the "raters" and are most useful in providing comfort to those (like yourself) who are uncomfortable with the facts.
     
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    I’ve often said, find your own rating site. Until then, I’ll continue to assume you’re “Crying Wolf”.
     
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    No rating site reflects anything other than its own biases. The enterprise is bogus.
     
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    When the wind doesn't blow . . . .

    The Dunkelflaute Disaster: What Happens When Wind Power Goes Silent
    Charles Rotter

    In the latest illustration of why you can’t rely on wishful thinking as a power source, the UK and Germany faced a harsh lesson in “Dunkelflaute.” For those not familiar with this charming German term, it means “dark doldrums”—or, in practical terms, a blackout in renewable power. While we’ve been lectured about the virtues of a green energy future, these countries got a taste of the reality: when the wind stops blowing, the entire grand plan goes belly-up.

    This past Tuesday, Britain’s much-heralded wind farms managed to cover a pitiful 3-4% of electricity demand during peak hours. The National Grid had no choice but to ramp up gas-fired plants, which handled a whopping 60% of demand. Meanwhile, solar and biomass did their best to chip in, but as always, they came up short. Across the Channel, Germany experienced similar woes. Wind speeds dropped so low that turbines were spinning at a meager 7% of their theoretical capacity. Once again, it was back to coal and gas—those supposed relics of the past that are actually the backbone of modern energy security. . . .
     
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    Meanwhile in the third world country I live in (aka California) we had a windy day on Wednesday. I noticed that a great many of the local turbines were not rotating. Also PG&E turned off the power in several locations because they can’t afford to maintain their power line easements to prevent wildfires if cables go down due to branches falling on them.
     
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    No more subsidies for offshore wind in the US.
    ‘It’s Gonna End on Day One’: GOP Lawmakers, Fishermen Urge Trump to Keep Promise to Axe Offshore Wind
    Adam Pack
    “The incoming administration has an historic opportunity to save American workers from foreign developers, reinvigorate iconic coastal towns, and improve America’s food security,” NEFSA CEO Jerry Leeman said in a…

    “We are going to make sure that [offshore wind] ends on day one. I’m gonna write it out in an executive order,” Trump told a crowd of his supporters at a campaign rally in Wildwood, New Jersey, on May 11. “It’s gonna end on day one.”
     
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    Germany is paying the price for their renewables folly.
    Green Blues…As Fog Persists For Days In Germany, Green Energy Output Falls To Near Zero!
    By P Gosselin on 10. November 2024

    At 5 p.m. last Wednesday, Germany’s 1602 offshore wind turbines in the North and Baltic Seas stood still…solar output was also near zero. Germany had to scramble to keep supply going.

    The enemy of green energy: the high pressure system
    By KlimaNachrichten

    In the words of Professor Claudia Kemfert: It is a myth to believe that solar and wind do not provide enough electricity. The myth that there will be enough wind and sunshine somewhere in Europe was shattered at the beginning of November 2024. Daniel Wetzel describes the situation in the online Die Welt (pay article)

    At 5 p.m. on Wednesday, solar power was only supplying a single megawatt hour. The 1602 offshore wind turbines in the North and Baltic Seas – each one the size of the Eiffel Tower – were at a complete standstill. Zero electricity production.

    The onshore wind turbines produced only 114 megawatt hours at that hour, with German electricity consumption at 63,000 megawatt hours. Transmission system operator Amprion described the situation on the LinkedIn web portal on Thursday: ‘The minimum feed-in from wind and PV was just around 100 megawatts in total (in the period from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m.).’

    This means that the 87,000 megawatts of photovoltaic capacity and around 72,000 megawatts of wind power installed in Germany with triple-digit billion-euro subsidies were virtually unused for hours on end. There was no danger to the power supply, it was said. ‘No sun, no wind – yesterday and today there was a dark doldrums in Germany,’ explained Amprion on Thursday: ‘But our system management had everything under control.'”

    Without the fossil power producers and foreign countries, things would have looked bad. A situation that was to be expected – but was consistently smiled away. Instead, graphics of the annual cycle were waved around to show that sun and wind would complement each other perfectly.

    The fatal thing about the situation is the prices. Fossil power generation has been made politically more expensive and in times of shortage, prices really go through the roof. Die Welt added:

    The peak prices of the past week are possibly just a harbinger of what is to be expected in the coming winter. The expert agency “Montel” quotes energy market experts who expect price peaks of 1000 euros per megawatt hour in the event of further wind lulls. This is because in times of low wind power production, increasingly expensive gas-fired power plants have to step in, which then define the market price level.

    Traders interviewed by “Montel” also referred to the German nuclear and coal phase-out, which has reduced the base load-capable power plant capacity that can produce regardless of the weather. The imminent onset of the autumn and winter cold in Europe is also likely to drive up prices. This is because France in particular will then see a sharp increase in its own consumption, as many heating systems in the country are powered by electricity. The surge in demand for electricity in France is likely to further increase the relative shortage on the European Power Exchange and thus drive up prices.”
     
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    What, no batteries?
     
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    As soon as I saw the subject was Germany, without even looking, I thought "Ole Jack is quoting from the QUACKERY rated No Tricks Zone again". You see, No Tricks Zone is German-based, and is run by the most biased anti-climate deniers on the planet.

    Truth is that wind power new capacity in Germany has always gone up and down. In addition, they often choose to dispatch older turbines, and replace with newer, more powerful and efficient turbines (bear in mind that land in Europe is not as plentiful as in the US, so they put much more effort into staying abreast with the most efficient turbines).

    https://windguard.com/publications-...gy Development in Germany_First Half 2024.pdf
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    The truth is that all that capacity comes at a price which citizens of Germany have to pay to stay warm and enjoy the conveniences of life.

    Goreham, Steve. Green Breakdown: The Coming Renewable Energy Failure (pp. 165-167). New Lenox Books. Kindle Edition.
     
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    Still failing.
     
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    Obertabokatang!
     
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    Quackery
     
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    That ^^^ is how those who are invested in false narratives respond to factual information.
     
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