"Go f**k yourselves", Zelensky office tells Western Officials

Yes, so what? You do not buy a coat every month. The good lunch in an average cafe costed around 0.8 rubles. You could go three times a day to cafe for two months just for one month salary. Poor people do not eat three times a day and do not have the benefits that existed in the USSR. It is kind strange to read the comments here from those who have no idea how was it in the USSR. P.S. By the way, I have never seen in the USSR homeless people in the streets, like I have seen many times in San Francisco, the city of one of the richest states in the US.

 

That’s what the freedom is - instead of taking 90% of your pay and giving you all these perks, whether you want/need them or not, in capitalism you have a choice and you can direct your money toward the things that suit you best.

No, Americans lived in single family homes for a very long time. Even metropolitan areas are structured differently here (compared to Europe) - cities house mostly businesses, while workers and professional class live in suburbs. That’s because people mostly want to raise a family in a real house, not an apartment.

Most mortgages are 30 years. Average life expectancy in the US is close to 80 years, which means that an average citizen should be able to buy and fully pay off at least 2 houses. In reality mortgages are paid off faster than that because usually peoples incomes grow throughout their career and they generally add additional money to their payments to pay off things faster.
The apartments that Soviet citizens would receive from their employer were not their property - they had no way to monetize that real estate. That apartment wasn’t free because as soon as something changed in your family status, or employment status, you’d need to move, and after you gave 50-60 years of your life working, that real estate would be taken away upon your death. So, the result of your lifetime work would be just your personal items - some jewelry, furniture, and electronics. That’s it! That free apartment is just an upgraded version of barracks that houses slaves - slaves live there their whole lives, yet they don’t own them, and as soon as an old slave dies, his bed is given to another slave.

They were all poor. Cheap kielbasa is not a measure of prosperity.

If you were born in the U.S. to two engineers, you’d be looking to inherit a nice paid off house, which would ensure you would have very comfortable retirement and could even afford you a yacht or a house by a beach. If you don’t have those things then most of the value of your parents’ labor was reappropriated by the soviet government and used to pay some someone’s free gym and free apartment.

 

NGOs are non-governmental agencies. Or, simply, non-profits. And yes, the US donated quite a bit of money to Ukrainian non-profits.
Now tell me - how does sending a few thousand dollars to a non-profit advocacy group that pushes for better treatment of LGBT is translated into a coup?

 

You have no choice of controlling your income either in capitalistic countries. I lived in Germany and paid almost 40% of my salary for taxes. Same thing is in Sweden. You pay a lot of taxes, you get your social security benefits. More taxes- more benefits.
As far as free apartments. Noone took it from my father after he has retired. Now I have it in Moscow. I can not talk for everyone, now I talk for myself. As for mortgages, I doubt one can buy two in the life - you have pay off your education which is hell expensive in the US. If you want a good job, your parents have to pay for a good private school, then for the good university.
I do not know what is poor in your definition, but from my point of view poor people - those who live in Africa.

 

First, it was not few thousand dollars, it was much more - around 14 million USD. And I assume that there were even more, we just do not know. I do not know the way how the money from the US turned to be in the pockets of the Leaders of Right sector and their supporters during the coup, but the exact mechanism is not important as soon as even V. Nuland and other American politicians admitted the involvement in the change of the power in Ukraine. I understand that you have your own view on the events in 2014 in Ukraine and consider that the US has nothing to do with the coup (or revolution, if you like this more), but I strongly convinced that the US is responsible for it. When the same thing happened in Guatemala, many told that the US has nothing to do with the events there. Later, however the truth was revealed.

 

Yes, if you are engineer in USSR, You can buy new coat after 4 month work, third of year, of course if you do not spend money at all. My mother as a nurse has payment 40 rubles per month. As medicine was "for free" so she should work for free too.

What's included in "good lunch"? I guess meat is not.

Its simple, all declassed elements was deported 100 km away from cities.

 

Even 40% is nothing compared to what was withheld in USSR if one were to value some job by western standards.

Don’t you love privatization and capitalism? If the USSR didn’t break up, that apartment would be occupied by someone else now.

You are forgetting about income rising due to gain of experience and inflation. I bought my first house for about $100,000 more than 10 years ago when my income was about $50k. I put down $15k. Now my income is close to triple that, I switched a house and now I can sell my house for $700k and I owe for it $250k. $700k - $250k = $450k of my personal wealth that I gained by doing nothing but making mortgage payments and picking the right time to buy and sell. So, yes, an average American will build enough wealth over their lifetime to pay for more than 2 houses.

No, a good electrician or a plumber earns $100k. You don’t need private school or expensive university - trade schools are fairly cheap here.

In my mind, a society is not poor if an average member can afford:
A single family house, with a separate bedroom for every member of the household, with only parents sharing 1 bedroom.
A car for each adult member of the household.
A smartphone for each family member older than 10 with a service plan that allows you to fully take advantage of the device.
3-4 meals per day that use different food ingredients.
Every meal contains meat (or vegan by choice).

 

On what search engine?

 

40 rubles per month? This was a stipend at the Institutes, but not the salary. You confuse something.. Well, the lunch included of course some fish or meat. 100km - this was only in times when some public events took place, like Olympic games. In other times, unless a person was a criminal, there were no restrictions for staying in the cities.

 

Because Democrat Politicians are really really good at spending other peoples money! Especially screwing over the taxpayers, and then lecturing that everything is our faults. Such as inflation, It's putins fault, or American voters fault, but not Democrat Politicians fault, nope. never. lol

 

God Bless Ukraine.

 

That is a problem for the people who live there not us.

The threats to our freedom are domestic. In the Whitehouse and congress.