God demands nothing and life is not a fight

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  1. Injeun

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    Yet here you are, laying down your own doctrines. I find it curious that you accept the Biblical concept of a loving God, but throw the rest away. BTW, the "elect" aren't those whom God loves more, but those who love God more than do others via faith, obedience, and sacrifice. Clearly a bounteous harvest is better than a dearth. God is not blind. It is why one looks to the Savior as the way, truth and life as opposed to someone or some other thing. To what or to whom does one cry out but to the pristine. And to what measure does one build but from a sure cornerstone, the first and head of the elect.
     
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    If you took a peek at the fields of psychology, sociology, and history you would quickly realize that human nature is really messed up and it takes a lot of effort to improve ourselves. If you have no urge to commit violence then why do you enjoy watching movies with lots of violence?
     
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    Spare the Rod - Spoil the Child .. If you love your Children you will spank them !
     
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    You really missed the point. You are saying that you do not give your children any boundaries? Of course you do. Do you make them eat? Of course you do. Do you teach them how to be good citizens, patient, kind, loving? Of course you do. But, do you give your children the right to not take your teachings to heart and run amuck? Or, do you discipline them when they do wrong or against your rules? Of course you do. What you don't do is make your children perform physical gestures? Are you sure? When you want a picture of them, don't you require they smile? If they want to speak up in their school classes to raise their hands before speaking? I'm sure there are other things you ask of them that are demonstrations of loyalty to the family...

    "So what God is worthy of my (indirect) worship? The one that can give everybody what they desire the most if they are honest with themselves: peace of mind. There is that saying that goes something along the lines of "All of man's problems stem from his inability to sit quietly in a room by himself" If you but still your mind in meditation, you merge with the one will and then you can manifest the life you desire by accomplishing just about anything you set your mind to because your will is merged with the will of God."

    You are setting the rules for God. You will follow a god that gives them peace of mind. Not the God that requires effort to be given peace of mind. Then, you believe whatever you come up with in your room is the will of God. Once again telling God what His will, will be. And, yes, Satan wants you to find happiness and peace of mind that will steer you further away from the Father and Son. That's how people get caught up in the big sins in which "Wickedness Was Never Happiness." The world is full of people happy and enjoying their sins and fighting against their Father in Heaven and His Son, Jesus Christ. But, in the end, Satan will win and there shall be no happiness in Mudville tonight.
     
  5. Greenleft

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    So basically my spiritual experiences (you would call it the Holy Ghost) which I believe God grants for free, don't mean anything because they don't line up with your ideas of God's nature. And your ideas come from some old books and an old man talking behind a lectern. Thanks, but I don't need the guiding hand of an institution or a written code.

    And all this talk of Satan points to your insecurities. I don't worry about anyone else's salvation other than my own. If somebody wants salvation, they will seek it out themselves. It's not my job to point them to a magazine, a tract, a book or a guru/prophet and then give them instructions on doing physical gestures to appease a deity.

    And no, if you knew me, you'll know I never tell my children to smile for the camera.
     
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    So, you never give your children direction. Sad. As parents, it's our duty to give them direction and then let them govern themselves when they are ready.
    I wouldn't call your spiritual experiences were influences by the Holy Ghost or the Light of Christ. You have been steered away from receiving these things because you reject the Holy Ghost who is from the Father and Son as part of the Godhead. Those prophets, seers and revelators, apostles and their written words are freely given from God to know His ways and our way back to Him. Satan is the great deceiver calling good evil and evil good. because I recognize this, I have no fear of Satan because I have the Gift of the Holy Ghost in which was given me by authority.
     
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    Yeah, he just confirmed my previous statement: my experiences don't mean anything because they don't line up with HIS beliefs.

    Putting him on ignore. Permanently this time.
     
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    I was originally going to contest that life is not a struggle, but your OP modified your title, that you do accept that life is a struggle against outside forces, but not against one's own natural instincts. I will accept that, though for many, life is a struggle against their own flaws, which we all have. I'm not just referring to the struggle of alcoholics, and other addicts, but just mundane challenges, like being productive. Even the Dali Lama admitted that, some days, it's hard for him to force himself out of bed, to face the day.

    Maybe in ourselves, but probably not in others.

    But what is one's assurance that OUR idea of what is, "good," bears any semblance to God's conception of it?
     

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