Good Advice

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some good advice for anyone who has a stalker, lives in a bad neighborhood, owns property they'd like to be able to defend against those who want to take it, or otherwise places their own life and the lives of their families and friends above the lives of thugs.

    Likewise good advice for those who wish to avoid being herded into boxcars.
    Politicians prefer unarmed victims.

    Suggestion, buy a gun and learn how to shoot it and hit what your aiming at.
     
  2. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Actually Republican politicians prefer armed idiots.
     
  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    its funny that someone who supports the big nanny party wants to call people who don't need the government to feed and clothe them "idiots" you should walk down the streets of Watts or the South Side of Chicago proclaiming your hatred of honest people being armed. and I guess you didn't catch the fact that Apacherat didn't single out Democrats, he said POLITICIANS which means he wasn't bashing your beloved party
     
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    One of my boys was robbed a couple of years ago. These thugs got our address and were trying to extort more money from my son and threatened home invasion. I talked to this guy once and didn't tell him that I was armed to the teeth because I didn't want to encourage him to prepare for me. I called the police after getting off the phone and the officer called his disposable phone and we never heard from him again. The police increased their patrols, but he told us that they could not be here to protect us 24/7. I felt a lot better knowing that was not necessary.
     
  5. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was thinking more in line with foreign politicians like Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, Castro.

    Get the drift ?
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Actually they all had majority support from their populations. So, no, I don't get the drift.
     
  7. OrlandoChuck

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    You are right, they did have support from the people. They sure got fooled by their respective governments, didn't they.
     
  8. Regular Joe

    Regular Joe Well-Known Member

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    Your comment leads straight into:
    "Those who don't learn from history......."
    Look around in America today, and you see a concerted effort to add another round to the unlearned lesson.

     
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    Took my teen daughter to the range the other day. Now that she's leaving for college far away she's rethought her opinions on guns.

    Started her with .22's and moved her up to a 9X18. Had a good part of her training shooting at human-like targets a foot away from a weapons retention stance.
     
  10. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think so, I seriously doubt the majority of the Cambodians supported Pol Pot. Not sure if Castro was supported by the majority or even if the majority of Russians supported the Bolsheviks during during the early 1900's.

    Only 10% of the German people were ever members of the Nationalist Socialist Party.

     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    democrats prefer armed criminals
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Or the fiction developed by the government met some need in the population leading to a lack of critical thinking and it's replacement with self delusion.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    That does not mean the other 90% did not support Hitler either in actuality or just in forbearance.

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    Is there a difference?
     
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    Having sufficient tools for defense is wise for everyone of any generation. Some fools will never understand that evil is a constant, especially in a society that does not respect a higher being.
     
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    Thank you for that, Maat. If not from the perspective of your view of evil, I think it's imperative to understand that conflict is simply the way of the world. If one is to venture out into the world, one has to understand that one will encounter conflict, at whatever level.

     
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    Did you just call over 120 million responsible American gun owners idiots?
     
  17. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well just remember, inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out. Once the Nazis in Germany or the Soviets in Russia gained power, that totalitarian got out.

    The totalitarian inside of Barack Obama is kicking and trying to get out, but it's an armed populace that is keeping that totalitarian confined with inside Obama.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL that is a silly question.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Do you even understand the definition of totalitarianism.

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    Why, forbearance of evil is the same as supporting evil.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Nope, I just called idiots, idiots. Course you know who you are. Like maybe people who have no clue about how to control the adrenaline response and then teach others that there is no way to do it.
     
  21. OrlandoChuck

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    In the few seconds that the majority of gun fights last, good luck with shooting, moving and running for cover all while moving your focus to your breathing. By the time you take ten breaths, the fight is over. The methods that I teach are the methods of the self defense instructors community across the country. There is an annual conference at the shot show. Hundreds of instructors coming to a consensus on instructional techniques. We view dozens of videos of actual self defense shooting of civilians and law enforcement and discuss. We have speakers that have life experiences. I have hours and hours of proper training so I can instruct the way the leading experts in the field suggest, so we can help our students possibly save their own lives. I actually have had students that have had to use what the learned from me, and have the emails thanking me for helping them to save their lives.
    So... What are your expert credentials...... Oh that's right ...... I remember now ... You said you read an article.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what forbearance of evil do you speak?
     
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    well I used a firearm to stop a violent attack upon my person. according to the investigating detective, I did everything "by the book". so I guess all those years shooting in things like National championships and world cup events helped
     
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    Teaching on outdated knowledge isn't really fair to your students

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    So just exactly what does " by the book" imply.
     
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    There is nothing outdated about the universal way instructors across this country are taught to teach. In fact everything is updated at the NRA annual conference each year. Nothing has changed about the typical way shootings go down.
    Also, I never said that the adrenaline response can't be controlled. I said, in typical self defense shootings, there isn't time to do it. The average shooting comes by surprise and lasts less than 10 seconds.
    In our classes we do induce stress so that people can train in a way that is the closest thing to a real scenario.

    How often do you shoot and train by having stress induced adrenaline responses, and use this technique that you read about?
    My guess is that you read about it but have never actually done it in a scenario based situation like a car jacking or an ATM hold up.
    To be effective, you not only have to train in scenario based circumstances, you must do it over and over to learn to control the effects of adrenaline dumps.
     

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