Grassley: Burisma executive who allegedly paid Biden has audio recordings of conversations with Joe,

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  1. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    And most party before country Democrats are perfectly okay with the Google banana republic type coverup.
     
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    I can’t wait to see the left’s defense of this. They can’t blame racism or global warming, so all that’s left is transphobia.
     
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    Maher is correct. Sorry that this makes you yawn.
     
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    No "defense" is needed for Uncorroborated Hearsay...
    Try again...:bored:
     
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  5. Steve N

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    You seem to have a lot of knowledge of pathological liars which is curious considering which party you belong to. So can you prove the person you’re referring to is a liar, or is the evidence in plain sight?
     
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    Great...
    Someone agrees with Maher's OPINION?
    Cool...
     
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    Can anybody PROVE that they are NOT LYING?
     
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    Yes, proving a negative is done every day on this board. The evidence is in plain sight.
     
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    NO. It ISN'T...:bored:
    Try again...
     
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    Do the executives at Burisma have any motivation to share those tapes with Congress? That's what I'd like to know.
     
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    I'm thinking the executives at Burisma might have had more motivation to sell the tapes to the Ukraine government. Might have been the impetus to get our money for their war with Russia. Biden might be getting blackmailed, and he's paying them with our money.
     
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    But they did. I just posted a link to it
     
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    Or the Russian connected guy who is supposedly the source, wants a new govt in ukraine that won’t arrest him
     
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    It’s the same as it’s always been. They should investigate, and let us know when someone has some proof.
    Same position you should have had on the Russia investigation
     
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    And who's "they"?

    You do realize that the President appoints the Director of the FBI, don't you?

    The Attorney General, who is head of the Department of Justice and all federal prosecutions, is usually a political ally and, again, is appointed by the President.
    It's common for Presidents to kick the old Attorney General out and appoint a new one when they enter the White House.

    Many might even worry about their career if they make an enemy of someone with a position so powerful as the President. By the very nature of the office and power structure, the President has influence and pressure over everyone below them.
    Imagine you've had a long career and worked yourself all the way up to the lofty position of Director of the FBI, and you're talking to the person who could decide to have you replaced.
    And if you know your boss could derail your career if you start investigating something you think he might not want you to investigate, would you still do it? (It would be easy for them to stop your investigation too, coming up with some excuse to reassign, then later fire you, so you might sabotage your career for nothing)

    For any serious investigation to actually happen, usually Congress would have to appoint a special prosecutor, and Senate and House committees are involved overseeing the investigation.
     
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    Seems like the last guys admin should have done it then, this scheme was allegedly years ago. Biden didn’t hire the fbi director or many of the agents.
     
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    That is a good and important question worth asking.


    Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Zelenskiy about investigating Biden's son concerning the Burisma scandal two and a half years after becoming president.

    The American media heavily criticized Trump for this and opined that it was very inappropriate.

    Perhaps the investigation ran into a roadblock because the administration of Ukraine stalled it.


    It seems kind of like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, because Trump would be heavily criticized if he did personally try to push an investigation, but also criticized if he didn't. People will say "You had your chance to do an investigation and you didn't."
     
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    INVESTIGATE WHAT That the GOP is working hard to get a "Biden" since 2018, like they did with the Clinton's for over a decade? lol

    IF the GOP has all this wonderful dirt on the Biden's why wasn't it given to the Trump DOJ??
     
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    Here's what happened when NBC News tried to report on the alleged Hunter Biden emails

    Analysis: Trump complains the media isn't reporting on Hunter Biden's emails. But NBC News met obstacles, including Rudy Giuliani, when it tried.

    ...But the Wall Street Journal and Fox News — among the only news organizations that have been given access to key documents found that the emails and other records don’t make that case. Leaving aside the many questions about their provenance, the materials offered no evidence that Joe Biden played any role in his son’s dealings in China, let alone profited from them, both news organizations concluded.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...d-when-nbc-news-tried-report-alleged-n1245533

    Here’s how The Post analyzed Hunter Biden’s laptop

    Two experts confirm the veracity of thousands of emails, but say a thorough examination was stymied by missing data


    The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Hunter Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Hunter reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.


    The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post.

    ...Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity, especially in a case where the original computer and its hard drive are not available for forensic examination. Other factors, such as emails that were only partially downloaded, also stymied the security experts’ efforts to verify content.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

    https://archive.is/b1Ser
     
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    I don't know the answer to that, but it might be because the available evidence was not strong enough for a conviction, or really appropriate for a prosecution.
    Sometimes the evidence is just enough to cast very strong suspicion, like a huge trail of smoke but you can't actually see any fire.

    While sometimes this doesn't stop prosecutors, they probably would have been more careful and cautious with a politically sensitive case like this.

    Another factor is that most Republicans may not have even really viewed this scandal as a priority to investigate, because they did not expect Biden to win the nomination for President (nearly 4 years later).
     
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    The White House has accused Republicans of “floating anonymous innuendo.”

    Release of the document in question, FBI officials have warned, would jeopardize the safety of the confidential human source who received the unverified tip.



    ...“Protecting the identities and information provided by confidential human sources from unnecessary disclosure or undue influence is therefore critical not only because of safety concerns but also to avoid chilling their candor or willingness to continue reporting to the FBI,” Christopher Dunham, an acting FBI assistant director, wrote to Comer last month.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...lican-fbi-clash-over-a-biden-related-document
     
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    lets hear the tapes, if they show Biden took bribes, let him resign, that is what we have VP's for
     
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    Probably it's too late to hold Biden accountable in any real meaningful way. (He could practically be headed to an assisted memory care home after leaving the White House)

    And the thing with the Democrat's choice of VP, she's a poison pill, placed there designed to discourage any thought by Republicans of trying to remove the president.

    Even if Republicans had the power to send Biden to prison, they'd have very little overall to gain.
    It wouldn't even advance the narrative that "Democrats are corrupt and Republicans were right all along" very much, because Biden's popularity is already so low among Democrat voters. And the supposed crime is already almost 10 years old by now, will be even older by the time Republicans retake the White House. That will result in a loss of public interest.
     
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