Greek blood libel against Germans

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  1. DrewBedson

    DrewBedson Active Member

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    The war claims dividing Greece and Germany

    And what do they plan on doing with this money? Giving it away to a whining public to support their failed welfare state. Is it any business of anybody's what they do with it?

    Nope.
     
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    Germany should be kicked out of all international organisations till the money are paid to the families of the 400.000 killed by their compatriots .
     
  3. Munqi

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    I can sympathise with your position, but really, what the hell are the germans supposed to do? Sign all the checks you want? You should have left the euro a long time ago, you stayed which means that the germans own you -,-
     
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    Heh this is not about the eurozone and yeah we should have left years ago or not even enter it at all.
    Those are money they have to pay for killing 400.000 people, of course i am not saying that those money should go to the government but to the families of the victims .
     
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    When is my money coming from moscow? When will the japanese get theirs? Or the polish? -.-
     
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    Is there an international court decision that Moscow owes you money ?
     
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    The Germans should just say that they don't owe the Greeks a thing, but that if an international court finds against them they'll count every euro they've spent trying to prop up the Greek economy against the amount assessed by said court. I didn't have much respect for the Greeks and now I have even less.
     
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    The point is............. greece isnt very popular these days and this is hardly making your situation any better.

    I can understand your pissed, but this really isnt the way to go.
     
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    Popular? like we care .... Germany has to pay and this is it .
     
  10. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    I thought germany had already payed all ww2 compensation things. Oh well, sucky for them to have that baggage with them all the time. I believe the families shouls be compensated.

    And yeah, russia should pay for what the soviet union did or its not really fair.
     
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    They didn't finish paying their WWI debt until 2010.
     
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    Treaty of versailles? Man, that's slow! Some hundred years while being thepowerhouse of europe.
     
  13. DrewBedson

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    They stopped paying in 1931 or 2 and didn't resume until the fifties so a lot of interest accumulated. Hmmm, those Europeans certainly had a mega blood libel against Germany it seems. Jews had nothing on them.:roflol:
     
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    The Greek claims against the Nazis are nothing compared to the suffering many of my ancestors endured under the Romans.

    (Some) of my people were put under the Roman sandal (like the Nazi jackboot, only worse) in Britain back around 2,000 years ago. This brutal occupation virtually destroyed the British culture. Thousands were enslaved. What a humiliation. This was worse than "Roots." Those who resisted didn't even have the good chance of surviving a concentration camp. They were crucified or fed to the lions.

    If there is any justice in this world, then international courts should force Italians to pay reperations for what their ancestors did to my ancestors.
     
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    Are they any more or less entitled to that money than is Israel? I think both nations are without a claim, personally. I'd personally declare their demands for war reparations beyond the statute of limitations..

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    There we go. It's time Italy (and the Vatican!) paid up.
     
  16. DrewBedson

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    What is the statute of limitations for war reparations? Evidently it was almost a hundred years for WWI as they didn't pay off that bill until 2010.
     
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    Ah well, it was an old claim that they agreed to pay and continued paying. It's not quite the same as having the kids and grandkids of alleged war victims just now making a claim.
     
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    Actually might not have much hope of getting it to tell the truth as it is a new claim but, is based on a part of an old claim where they got screwed over with a partial payment.

     
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    Seriously though, a state is responsible for actions it took in the past. The federal republic of germany IS the successor state of the third reich and the germans are mature enough to know that they cannot run from their responsibility. The romans' actions were descpicable and you're right that you should be given some kind of compensation. Good luck finding the successor state to the roman empire though.
     
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    Says who? No, no, no. Only, and I repeat only, defeated Western powers, or countries of former Axis powers are the only ones currently liable for the actions of their former leaders and governments. That's the way it is now. I think ALL nations should be held to the same standards, especially Communist governments and the current peoples that were part of them----even if they weren't born yet, or immigrated to them.

    Expecting payments from Germany for something as far back as 70 years ago, is no different than asking Italy for something 2,000 years ago.

    However, the commies need to start paying before the Germans pay anything more.
     
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    Actually the Romans RECIEVED reparations but to my knowledge didn't pay any. :roflol: A very interesting Wiki article documents war reparations throughout history and lists Greece as paying a hefty amount to the Turks and France paid the Germans a pile of moolah as well.

     
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    Aside from the tributes or reperations paid back in China eons ago, everything I said about Western, AKA European powers, Russia included, are the only ones expected to pay.
     
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    What are they going to do with the money? They are going to pay back a loan from Germany with a phenomenal interest rate, and which isn't helping the Greek people pay for medicine and food, and instead is going right back to Germany to buy arms so Greece can protect itself from the Turkish threats on its islands and territorial waters. Nato could have stopped Turkey these past thirty years from threatening Greece, but why should they have, after all it's a win win situation for Germany, and a lose lose one for Greece.

    Greece doesn't have a whining public, what they had were people who traditionally depended on jobs and favors from relatives and friends. When the government became socialist, this system of dependency continued and the government was robbed silly by both parties.

    The income of 'state' doctors was being subsidized by undisclosed 'envelopes', and Greeks can be quite generous. Tax officials were bribed so the incomes some Greeks were disclosing wasn't even enough to pay for the gas and electric bill on their million dollar mansions. Merkel was furious in consequence because no one was being put in jail, so she decided to punish everyone. The problem with that is that most of the guilty parties have their money in off shore accounts. Also one third of the jobs in Athens has to do with shipping, and they are international companies. Any pressure on the owners and they will leave.

    Anyway the EU was bound to fail right from the beginning, because it tried to impose a northern European community minded culture, on a Mediterrean 'individualistic' minded culture. The people of Greece are suffering and since Greeks are highly educated, they are leaving for Germany, Australia, and Canada.
     

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