Greene has been Stripped

How could she not be stripped?




Or perhaps more to the point, why did Repubs force Dem's hand by doing nothing?

 

'Let's Take Back Our Party': Adam Kinzinger Launches PAC to Challenge Trump Wing of GOP (msn.com)

COUNTRY FIRST | Join the Movement (country1st.com)

 

Great idea Adam..........To late, Frankensteins monster is out of control, but your party has been feeding and lying to the masses for 40 years!
And now you have had enough?
Democrats have been sick of your party since the great Reagan lie!
Best of luck to you and Mr. Stien!

 

She DID believe that nonsense. She wrote 59 articles for a conspiracy theory website. It's possible she's learned she was wrong, but her public embrace of the conspiracy theory that Trump won the election demonstrates that she has a tendency to think in that irrational way.

 

And that's scarier than Greene. Then again over 70 million people wanted 4 more years of absolute insanity. Welcome to Amerika, land of Qanon.

 

It's never too late and I applaud Mr. Kinzinger's efforts. He and Liz Cheney should be supported by Democrats.

Kevin McCarthy was nice enough to provide Democrats with a caucus vote that could be compared and contrasted. An anonymous vote. In private, as they say, the caucus supports the Cheney wing. In public, the Trump wing.

Republicans have some serious work ahead of them. It should be easy to distance oneself from political violence, but the GOP is trying to have it both ways. This strategy is doomed to fail as tolerance of violent rhetoric will always be the face of the party when defended with half-hearted condemnations and process arguments.

 

She still has her vote. And it won’t be long before it is needed.

 

at least ONE party is willing to COOPERATE with another party. I'm not sure why Republicans always have to be the "better" people. they should play just as dirty as the dirty democrats do

now its time to strip Terrorist Ilhan Omar of her committee spots as she has said more ridiculous things than greene. Thank you Democrats for setting this new precedent. Everyone better be SUPER careful of ANYTHING they say from now on.

 

Let people like you know that you aren't the arbiters of truth and morality. Even more important, an establishment owned by billionaires and race hustlers are definitely not the arbiters of truth and morality. Hopefully the 11 Republicans who voted for this are primaried.

The "decent, patriotic" Republicans can go join the party that is tearing down statues around the country. They aren't welcome here anymore or ever again. We must become the party for the workers and the small businesses and let them be the party for the elites.

 

Not at all. They simply thought that voting for her would lose votes from themselves. Don't invent nonsense.

 

Here's another young sane Republican. He too is facing censure from the state party for not kissing Trump's ring.

 

Voters are voting for those they like. Which mean they hold similar values and beliefs.
How would they vote for one they don't agree with. Makes no sense.

 

Trump lost, a plane hit the Pentagon and political violence is wrong. That pretty much sums it up.

Q is the arbiter of Truth and Morality. Lmao.

 

Yep some people believe nutty things. One member of Biden's cabinet believes that melanin makes blacks smarter and strong than whites and another member believes that people with penises are women. If we are stripping people of power for nutty ideas, it has to go both ways. If it does not, then Republicans are only accepting the left's invitation to slit its own throat when they act like the 11 Republican traitors did in this instance.

 

Such as?

Of course it's a shame that only 11 repubs voted against her. And it's a pity for the true and honest conservative voters who, generally speaking, deserve much better than that.

 

Amen.

However, there were about 200 votes (all Republican of course) in favor of Ms. QAnon.

She stood before the House before the vote and told lie after bald faced lie concerning her absolutely uncoscionable statements, her gun t-shirt, her promotion of killing contressmen, her 911 garbage, her Jewish laser forest fires, her conspiracy theories about the Parkland massacre of children, etc.

Then, Republicans declared by their actions that they APPROVE!!

Truth didn't get 10%.

 

I do NOT believe there was any "goal" accomplished.

What these two votes indicate is that Republicans continue to stand for the lies and deciet of domestic terrorists and our last president.

A goal would be for the Republican party to figure out something to stand for that is consistent with our form of government and it's success, consistent with what is best for America in some way, consistent with truth.

These votes indicate that Republicans are MILES away from that ever happening.

 

You wanted me to answer on the other thread, I'll answer here: America was never meant to be a 'democracy' even though that's what it eventually became and like all democracies do, it devolved into an plutocracy. And I've been clear about my wish for the American Empire, and it's supreme statehood. That will unify our citizens and put an end to the racist and classist civil war we've experienced.

 

Our government was carefully designed as a democracy. So, I really don't have any idea what you are talking about in your second sentence. Pretty much everything about our government is designed to conform to principles of democracy. Are you confused by the fact that at the federal level our democracy is a representative democracy?

From the start, our elected leaders came from those with power and wealth.

"American Empire"??? What the hell is that? I asked about a form of government, and "empire" is not a form of government. And, I see NO reason to believe that "empire" leads to better agreement on any issue at all.

 

hahahahaha now that is f’ing funny. Yes, claiming the election was stolen is definitely “cooperating” and being the “better” people.

 

"It's a Republic, if you can keep it"-Ben Franklin. Well, your message shows what happened to that noble idea. Obviously, we failed to keep it.
And no, it's not designed to conform to the principles of democracy, it's designed to enable the conflict that we're now living in.

The conflict of our Congressional bodies, as the Senate looks down on the House, and the House as the "people's house" doesn't come anywhere close to reflecting our wishes. The SCOTUS makes up its rulings, seemingly on a whim. The "living document" is no longer a document or alive, it's just a joke. And thus since the SCOTUS takes this openly active role within our government, the State and the Court are always in conflict.

Such that Thomas Jefferson advocated for the dismantling of the Court. Thomas freaking Jefferson. The SCOTUS is clearly beyond repair, and one of the big reasons(aside from the legal realities of his challenges) that the SCOTUS didn't hear it, is because if it did and if for some reason it decided otherwise, they would have faced a flank from both the left and right sides for its final abolition.

So please, let us stop shouting "democracy's" name, as though by virtue of shouting its name that means the government has vanity or worth. Because it doesn't.

A government's worth, is only as valuable as it serves its citizens. And throughout history, democracy has the worst track record at even coming close to serving the needs of its citizens including our own. Whereas Empires have historically led the most civil rights and human rights expansions(with other detractors, but mostly a far superior record to democracies where it's not even close.)

How is Empire a government? It is so, by claiming its rightful authority and status, ending the debacle and fight for power for those who are unworthy of, or incapable of seizing power. Democracy fails in that, as Aristotle and Plato had correctly stated, the average man is not capable of holding this power. It's power reserved only for those qualified with excellent judgment, foresight and sometimes restraint.

America has had pitiful presidents, because we do not seek out judgment, foresight and restraint. We don't seek greatness in our public officials either, hell we struggle to achieve even mediocrity.

 

Thank Goodness.

We need to put character, honesty and dignity back into our Government after what our country has been thru

 

They never are.

The unhinged fantasy of Frazzledrip refers to an imaginary video said to show Hillary and her former aide, Huma Abedin, assaulting and disfiguring a young girl, and drinking her blood. It holds that several cops saw the video, and Clinton had them killed.

It's a fantasy MTG endorsed.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3g...-frazzledrip-qanons-wildest-conspiracy-theory

What did the Repubs do about it? They gave her two committee assignments.

 

We KEPT our republic. And, let's remember that we're a democratic republic - with republic only referring to the fact that we leave significant governance to the states. WHY do I keep having to repeat this to every Republican that comes along?

Our government was designed to allow representatives to negotiate issues. That's the SOLE REASON we have a legislature. The fact that those we elect can't figure that out is a charactistic of the fact that far too many (ie, >0) seem to think that party is more important that their constituents - let alone America.

Democracy does NOT mean that the House is going to do what YOU want. There are others.

Our SCOTUS has been hugely conservative for a long, long time. And, it has been supremely partisan for a long time now. So, I have NO idea what you are complaining about.

I view this as whining. If you had a solution you would push for it.

ABSOLUTELY no.

Again, if you wanted America to be founded on sommething besides democracy, you would state it and argue in its favor. All you are doing so far is complaining that elections have consequences - including the consequences of electing TOTALLY unqualified representation .

"Empire" is not a form of government. Any form of government cam claim authority on some basis.

But, the fist step is that it has to be a form of government. "Empire" is an extensive region usually comprising multiple states under one authority. We're already under one authority - the constitution and the democratic republic it defines.

AMEN!!

I think this is probably the single most significant flaw with our form of government.

ANYBODY can get elected president if they have enough wealth and popularity.

In a parliamentary system (which is also a democracy), only those successful at governance can attempt to be Prime Minister.

So, we get those with ZERO experience in how to make government work.

And, we essentially promise them 4 years of power to do any damn thing they want with near total exemption from ALL law - as Trump proved repeatedly.

If Trump had been a Prime Minister in a parliamentary form of government, he would have lasted a few months before his party replaced him.

 

A few years ago, I would have agreed that Greene should be stripped of her committee assignments. A conspiracy theorist? How embarrassing!

Now however, after four years of a nutzo Russian Collusion conspiracy theory dominating the Congress (not to mention the media and administrative state), I'm a lot less interested in purging the few nuts on my side when the other side is dominated by nuts. If the question is should all conspiracy theorists lose their committee assignments, I would agree with it, but for just a Republican to lose hers, when the Speaker of the House believes in Russian Collusion?

Nope.