Growing list of post-election 'hate crimes' turn out to be hoaxes

Left-wing fascists would be a more familiar and understandable term

 

ummm... no one was challenging him to do so. This is public political opinion forum. He has every right to say what he said and afterword if you demand evidence then so be it. If I tell you that the sky is blue several times will you demand a picture to prove it every single time even though you already know the answer?

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ummm... no one was challenging him to do so. This is public political opinion forum. He has every right to say what he said and afterword if you demand evidence then so be it. If I tell you that the sky is blue several times will you demand a picture to prove it every single time even though you already know the answer?

Plus he DID post videos so whatever point you are trying to make has failed miserably

 

If you make an assertion, the onus is on you to support that assertion with evidence. For instance if I say there is a pink elephant in the room that you are in right now, you could spend a lot of time looking, never finding this elephant I insist is there. I am burdened with providing evidence of my claim because what I claim may not exist, and it is rude to presume others should do your research for you. This is debate 101. It is also logic 101.

 

Except he wasn't debating anyone. And he did produce the videos once asked to do so by a person who was not part of the original conversation.

 

And yet in other areas where unvetted "migrants" have been invited by the millions, the crimes and violence are quite real.

Angela Merkel of Germany, (Hillary would have been her US analog) imported about a million into the nation she leads, and their government is concealing the rape statistics which skyrocketed after the mass immigration. The German government responded by calling on German women to dress more modestly. Perhaps they should wear burkahs, and never go out of the house without a male relative, like they do in Mecca.

 

Hype aside, it's a tall order to expect thousands upon thousands of refugees and illegal immigrants from vastly different cultures to integrate into German society, especially all at once. Now Frau Merkel has German blood on her hands in her misguided effort to help a bunch of foreigners flooding into her country. The rapes and killings come back to her, the leader who throws caution to the wind because her heart bleeds.

 

Well put. And I don't expect her to do the hard work needed to undo the harm she has caused, rather I expect her to resign or not seek re-election and quietly fade from the scene of horror she paved with her "good" intentions.

 

I'd have to add the names of dozen fallen police officers to the list of innocents killed as a result of leftist propaganda ...

 

I don't think she's doing it because of a bleeding heart. That's just the façade of compassion they wrap around their actions. She wants to destroy Germany and change the face of the German people forever.

 

On that same subject, I swear they picked the acronym BLM to camouflage the problems out west between ranchers and the government, with a couple of them being killed.

It was so amazing to see the public come through in the face of such absolute corruption and propaganda.
And the look on all their faces - priceless.

I just hope they don't kill him.

 

Apparently it's mental health issues that lead to hoaxes:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-muslims-concerned-false-reports-hate-crimes-unfairly/story?id=44345100

US Muslims Concerned That 'Few False Reports' of Hate Crimes Will 'Unfairly Discredit' Real Ones
By AVIANNE TAN Dec 22, 2016, 5:37 PM ET
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After two reports of anti-Muslim hate crimes were determined to be fake by authorities this month, the Muslim community is concerned that these "few false reports" are going to "unfairly discredit and delegitimize the dozens of real anti-Muslim hate crimes and instances Islamophobia out there," according to the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC).

"The way our community is treated in the media is unfortunately very monolithic," MPAC spokeswoman Rabiah Ahmed told ABC News today. "When one person acts out -- whether it's making a false report or some other type of bad behavior -- it's often looked upon as if the whole community is responsible for it, and it's saddening."

One recent false report was made in Ann Arbor, Michigan, where a woman fabricated a hate crime incident in November, city police announced on Wednesday.

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The woman, whom police are not naming at this time, alleged at the time that a man approached her near the University of Michigan campus and threatened to set her on fire if she did not remove her hijab, according to a spokesman for the Ann Arbor Police Department.

After poring over multiple surveillance videos, and after interviewing multiple witnesses, investigators determined "the incident in question did not occur," the police department spokesman told ABC News today. He added that the results of the investigation have been forwarded to the county's prosecutor's office, which will determine whether the woman will face charges.

In a separate case in New York City, police arrested an 18-year-old woman named Yasmin Seweid on charges of filing a false report and obstructing governmental administration, according to ABC's New York station WABC.

The NYPD said last week that Seweid falsely claimed that three men taunted her aboard a subway train on Dec. 1, yelling "Donald Trump" and calling her a "terrorist." The NYPD added that Seweid also falsely claimed that the men tried to take off her hijab and told her to "Get that f------ thing off your head!"

Seweid may have made up the story to get attention because of family issues at home, according to the NYPD.

Seweid's attorney, Benjamin Jon West, could not immediately be reached for comment on the case, nor the Manhattan Criminal Court for additional information, including if Seweid has entered a plea to the charges.

Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), told ABC News today that he believes the false reports are "statistically inevitable when you have such a large pool of reports."

"I think these cases are a function of the tremendous spike in the number of anti-Muslim hate crimes in recent weeks, particularly after the November election," Hooper said. "As with any type of reporting, a certain small percentage of them are going to turn out to be false."

Hooper added that he was concerned about how such reports are used against the Muslim-American community at large, which has been hurting and experiencing tremendous levels of fear, especially after the presidential election.

"These false reports unfortunately give ammunition to the industry of Islamophobes who promote the demonization and dehumanization of Islamic Muslims," he said. "But one or two false reports should not take away from the credibility of dozens of other real ones."

Hooper also told ABC News that the Muslim community "is under great psychological stress and tension right now, and that that in itself can cause mental health issues that lead to these types of incidents."

Ahmed echoed Hooper, saying that "we have youth going through a variety of issues" and "the community isn't immune to all the societal pressures out there that could lead someone to not tell the truth, exaggerate or report a false crime."

"We, as a community, need to do our best to try and make sure our people are supported and that we're verifying claims before they're shared," she said. "But at the same time, we really are facing an increase in anti-Muslim sentiment and hate crimes, and we need to shed a light on these issues and challenges."

 

Anyone who takes the SPLC seriously has been duped.

THEY are the biggest hate group in the land. Their "Hate Map" and "Hate Group Lists" are almost entirely anti-White and anti-Christian. They only add 10% of other groups helter skelter for propaganda---and would never sue them. For the longest time, they wouldn't include any of the thousands of racially pure street and prison gangs that kills so many thousands and have no tolerance for others outside their gang's race. But finally, they were forced to add the "Aryan Brotherhood." No other Black, Hispanic or Asian gang made the list.

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

 

If the regressive, repressive, aggressive left haven't got any actual material to work with they're of course going to confect it. The Democrat Party itself started violence at Trump rallies and, in a breathtaking display of hypocrisy, blamed the Republicans.

The more people realise the ethical bankruptcy of the left, the better things will be. These are people who should be kept as far away as possible from any kind of office.

 

There's now a push on college campuses to subdue ANY studies that end up disproving social theories, and to even go as far as shutting them down half way through if things are starting to lean that way. It isn't policy as of yet, but they're trying.

The great majority of studies people are conducting to prove leftists theories are coming back with the opposite findings.

 

i guess the nypd is part of the hoax too
https://www.google.com/amp/observer...rumps-election/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon

 

No one is saying that they're all hoaxes, of course.

 

they are only hoaxes if rwers say so. this is another flame bait thread.

 

Not at all. This thread is addressing the very real issues of hoaxed hate crimes and people's tendency to believe such stories or not depending on their existing biases.

 

well according to the nypd, hate crimes are up

 

[video=youtube;8OaN8qJnaxs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OaN8qJnaxs[/video]

 

To be fair is that reports of or after they are investigated?

 

the great and powerful trump has spoken. or will be by his jedi powers

 

I believe I've been a victim of Trump hate!
This morning the wife and I were making breakfast. I made a pancake in the shape of Trump's head. (yes I had to use the large pan so his ego would fit) The wife thought I was being silly and cut it in half. (an obvious violent act against my pancake)

I was recoiling from the assault when she said, "50% for you, 50% for me --- see it's now a Hillary pancake".
I had cereal.

 

Politics and breakfast just don't mix.

 

in the article, it is an nypd report. to be a hate crime, some investigation and some criteria must be met