Gun Arguments

Yup, being murdered is exactly the same as being offended, and a hobby is exactly the same as a necessary freedom.

 

I'll grant you that hunting does a public good. However it's still just a hobby. One that is still very much practiced in england and australia.

 

There is a growing population on both sides of anti-science, anti-American conspiracy theorists on both sides, but unfortunately, The undeniable reality is that there is a stark asymmetry.

 

Let's think about things a little more here and work on our critical thinking skills. Nothing you said there contradicts anything I said.

 

You're claims that my owning guns threatens your life is bogus....but you are free to fear me and the rest of my Constitutional and natural rights.

 

Yes, you should do that.

Contradict? No. Reveal that you are being deceitful with your "33,000 deaths" meme? Absolutely.

 

So cold blooded facts are emotional are they? A mother who leaves a loaded firearm in a room with two infants and returns to find her youngest daughter shot dead in a pool of blood, yes that’s pretty emotional. Fact: Every day in America, two children are admitted to hospital with gunshot wounds that too could be emotional especially for their parents. But that cuts no ice with you because it’s an emotional response.

Do you know what a person is called who has no emotion? A psychopath.

 

Are you claiming those "33,000 deaths" are due to careless mothers? If not, what percentage of those "33,000 deaths" are accidents? Suicides? Murders by black males? Murders by white males? Yes, some "cold blooded facts", please.

Yes, I'm familiar with what a psychopath is as well as a sociopath. Do you know what an overly emotional person going from one emotional crisis to another is? Borderline Personality Disorder

 

We shall then both expect and appreciate your continued silence on the issue. Thank you.

 

None of this is, as you said, your concern.

 

Yet there are 300million guns and only 23000 suicides, Your link is tenuous at best. One may as well note that men who kill themselves usually use a gun, women generally find tidier ways to do it. I'd rather guns be used in suicides that cars at high speed on the free way. Not even the NRA suggest 7 year olds of either sex should be packing heat.
Why would one be worried about a penalty that is almost never inflicted?
Put it this way a few years about the lcola university experience a series of rapes in a nearby student off campus housing facility. Three young ladies were left stricty alone. The young lady with the human silhouette target taped to the front door with three shots in the crotch and three in the heart and the two girls living on either side of her.
Then there is the case of the small town in Georgia in which after a string of home invasion robberies passed an ordinance that said every one should be armed. During the time period before the courts over turned the law - about six months - the numbers of that sort of crime fell by more than fifty percent. Murder and other sorts of crime aren't comparable. the overwhelming majority of murders are crimes of passion. Other crimes are crimes of opportunity and guns on the occupied premises you are about to rob, reduces the opportunity drastically.

 

That's true.

The ruling class still has access to them.

The subjects, not so much.

 

Certainly sir, carry on shooting each other.

Have a nice day.

 

If your answer is never, then we're just gonna have to agree to disagree. Fundamentally opposed values and such...

 

I shall. Every day.

 

What is your answer then?

 

Not true actually

 

On the subject of guns, there are no arguments against them. It is a well-known fact that the more guns that are in circulation ....... the less they will be used.

 

Can you defend your life with a firearm there?

 

Why do you think that?

 

Why not?

 

Kudos! A free press is key to liberty - far more important than guns.

There is a devil at the door named trump who wants to kill the free press.

I can't believe I am saying this; in THIS country!!!! God I hate that man and his supporters, with a passion. They need to be eliminated like the Nazis were eliminated.

 

Well it would be because the only legal self defense weapon allowed in the UK is a rape alarm.

That's right. IF someone is trying to kill you you cannot harm them, by law, in the UK.

Good luck in your nanny state.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm

The only fully legal self defence product at the moment is a rape alarm. These are not expensive and can be bought from most local police stations or supermarkets.


There are other self defence products which claim to be legal (e.g. non toxic sprays), however, until a test case is brought before the court, we cannot confirm their legality or endorse them. If you purchase one you must be aware that if you are stopped by the police and have it in your possession there is always a possibility that you will be arrested and detained until the product, its contents and legality can be verified.


However, accepting there is a lot of concern about street crime, we can try to clarify matters a little by putting forward the following points.

• You must not get a product which is made or adapted to cause a person injury. Possession of such a product in public (and in private in specific circumstances) is against the law.
• There are products which squirt a relatively safe, brightly coloured dye (as opposed to a pepper spray). A properly designed product of this nature, used in the way it is intended, should not be able to cause an injury.
• However, be aware that even a seemingly safe product, deliberately aimed and sprayed in someone's eyes, would become an offensive weapon because it would be used in a way that was intended to cause injury.
• Any products bought from abroad have a greater chance of being illegal.

The above advice is given in good faith, you must make your own decision and this website cannot be held responsible for the consequences of the possession, use or misuse of any self defence product. See Q85 for information on the use of reasonable force.

 

I suppose some may see it as a hobby, but I assure you lugging out 500# of elk meat plus the head is more of a cruel ritual then a hobby Now reloading and fine tuning optics may fall under the category of hobby, but hunting, that's closer to challenge if not art! And knocking down a pronghorn antelope at a 100 yard or better at a top speed of 54 mph without hitting it in the ass, well that might even be considered skill my neck of the world

I suppose you think my ugly stick and Shimano reel are nothing more than dust catchers too

 

Why do you not understand that the 2nd amendment is there in case the 1st amendment fails?