Gun Debate

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by Just A Man, Jan 18, 2023.

  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    what is the purpose of such a comment? it is one that gun banners often spew in an attempt to denigrate gun ownership. It has no value currently and has not for well over 300 years
     
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    It makes perfect sense, if your not trying to catch someone up in something.
    OUR Constitution is and was always meant to be a living document, to be taken as a whole and/or studied word by word; it doesn't change.
    The more we you debate talk, the more convinced I become that you haven't read the Constitution, only parts; the parts you think hope will support your argument.
    And if "we" can look outside the Constitution to understand it, then we can treat it reasonably, as a friend to guide us. Not, a straight jacket that hems us in and binds us to unreasonable action; that was never the founders intention and they would be appalled to find we use it that way.
    I don't pretend. Take it or leave it, I am what I am.
     
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    Noone Well-Known Member

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    That's not true.
     
  4. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    So again…because someone denied the fact that guns were invented to kills. I’m not sure why you’re struggling to understand this. I’m not denigrating anything or anyone. I just merely corrected an incorrect statement. Nothing more…nothing less. You seem to have a habit of thinking there’s something more to what I’m posting. Try to step back and be less emotional. It might help you think more clearly.
     
  5. Polydectes

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    Nobody is trying to "catch you up in anything."

    I asked a simple question and instead of answering you try to pretend like you're smarter than everyone.
    yeah they even created a process in which to amend it already know about that.
    personal attacks early symptom of inability to make a point.
    I thought you said you studied this why are you giving me the high school rundown?
     
  6. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am wondering why this has any relevance to this discussion. yes, the first guns that were created were designed to kill-enemies or animals. So what. What was your reason for correcting a statement you disagreed with? Try to step back and understand that this claim is one that is mainly uttered by those who wish to denigrate gun ownership. It has no other use
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    ever person with a penis starts off virgin until he rapes someone?
     
  8. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    this guy is a rather obvious trojan horse's ass. The only people who cite him are invariably anti gunners. He is wrong about the shooters I associate with-we know what AR stands for-and its Armalite so he's full of bovine excrement
     
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    Say anything you wish about me. I'm not the topic
    You can talk about me all you want. I'm not really interested.

    That's why I responded to a subject other than me.

    I'm flattered but it's just boring.
     
  10. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    ok tell me what value it has today
     
  11. Polydectes

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    I watched a lot of his content about 4 years ago. He has moments. But they are few.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    anyone who actually knows this subject writes him off as an attention whore and a phony.
     
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    He'll pull the "I've studied the Constitution thoroughly, but can only give basic high school knowledge about it" act.

    Internet scholars are always fun.
     
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    For the third time…because someone denied the fact that guns were invented to kill.
    I clearly didn’t say a gun has no other use. In fact I stated I use mine for target shooting. So there’s that. Carry on.
     
  15. Turtledude

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    and again I ask, why does it matter. many gun banners say that killing is the only purpose of any gun. I think that is where the argument was going
     
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    If that is where the argument was going then that’s what I would have said. But as you’ve seen…I did NOT say that. And again….I had stated killing was NOT….as in NOT the only use as I said I use mine for target shooting. You really need to read what is ACTUALLY being posted rather than what you THINK is being posted. You have a habit of doing this. At this point I can only assume you’re being a troll because no one can be this ignorant. For the record, I don’t think you are ignorant.
     
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    actually I know the gun debate argument inside and out and having seen thousands of anti gunners all say that the purpose of guns was to kill people that immediately indicates what sort of argument I will be seeing. no one denies that the first firearms were designed as weapons
     
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    Because it is accurate, the fact that some aren't used to kill doesn't negate the fact that that what's their made for.
     
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    Except they do.
     
  20. Turtledude

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    see you prove the point that ECA denies. You're anti gun and you think by falsely claiming all guns are made to kill you can attack gun ownership. thanks for proving my point
     
  21. Turtledude

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    find me a quote-you seem to confuse this statement

    all guns are designed to kill with

    the first guns were designed as weapons
     
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    Nope, sorry.
     
  23. Turtledude

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    what are you denying?
     
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    Well yeah they are weapons. That's the point of them to be able to deal lethal force.

    Let's say you are hunting hogs. You don't want to wound the hog to that's cruelty and it could result in injuries to the hunter.

    It would be worse if they were designed just to inflict pain without killing that's not called a weapon that's called a torture device.

    In the course of life is necessary to kill. Would you want to hear your food scream as you eat it?
     
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    All of it.
     

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