Gun lovers in denial

Katrina was the perfect example. People were disarmed including in their homes and from all self defense. Did the police then provide protection? No. The result? The coliseum became a rape center - a rape center created by the police and government.

The justification they claimed - someone shot at a helicopter - turned out to be a lie. Regardless, there was no justification. Rather it was government claiming that every civilian could be raped and murdered, they only cared about their own safety. That is the standard training now. A police officer's live is worth 100%, a citizen's life is worth zero by comparison.

 

I am terribly sorry for my stupidity. I can't believe that escaped my attention, I was watching the news so much when it happened I have no idea how I missed such a thing. The military or swat personal that was involved should have been charged with armed robbery (211). I know this was awhile ago but I can't believe nobody has done anything about it. The neighborhood in which I live would have been a nasty shootout, for everybody that I know would have died before giving the guns up, and we would have set an example for the rest of the gun owners, to fight back making them think twice before doing it again. Maybe they are waiting for another catastrophe.
Again I am sorry because I was also being kind of a smartass.

 

We all make mistakes. It takes a responsible person to admit when they are wrong. Well done.

 

Noted.

In the wake of such a development, various states, and even the federal government, have enacted laws to prohibit the confiscation of firearms during declared states of emergency.

As we have seen in various other examples, however, those involved in law enforcement do not always follow the rules laid out for them, nor are they routinely punished for their actions even when those actions are blatantly illegal. And in the wake of the Heien decision that held police officers do not have to know the laws that they seek to enforce, they merely have to claim that they were unaware of what the law did or did not say, to avoid having their actions held against them at trial.

 

So much for ignorance of the law being no excuse eh?

 

I guess it just goes to show what the elite agenda really is. To take all means of defending yourself by any means necessary. Even God said to keep your sword. Modern times the sword is the gun. To me these are the kind of subjects that elected official's should be elected for. If we have no way to protect the laws we have voted on, what good are they?

 

Sorry, but wishful thinking on your part is NOT a substitute for FACTS.

 

If my local supermarket is out of milk, I go to another store to buy it. The only way to stop me from getting milk is to stop selling milk everywhere.

So you want to ban all guns everywhere.... what a surprise.

 

As usual, Newsbusters makes a headline that is NOT supported by the facts in it's actual reporting. NOTHING in the quotes or info regarding Clinton has her advocating for the confiscation or denying or banning of guns from law abiding citizens.

The sheer idiocy of rabid gunners who want no registration, oversight or legislation of gun sales and transfer is only surpassed by their credo of justification that criminals will get guns illegally.

No kidding? But do they stop and THINK about the FACT that if guns were registered and tracked like automobile ownership, illegal guns would become more difficult and EXPENSIVE for the criminal element, and therefore a decline in gun related crimes would result? Probably not.

Kids don't need Uzi's....the "preppers" are just the new generation of "survivalists"....another idea that never came to fruition. Waste and no solution to the problems of society.

 

I find the idea of survivalists somewhat extreme also, however if there ever were to by an international cyber attack on our water and electric supply, then they might not look so dumb after all.

 

Need is not a relevant concept in this discussion

as long as there are people who want to ban guns, people who choose freedom NEED weapons

 

LEFTIES FAVOR GUN CONTROL BECAUSE THEY LACK SELF-CONTROL. White House staffer indicted on assault charges.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/252484-white-house-staffer-indicted-on-assault-charges

Those are some great folks the Left has working a the WH

 

Just for starters, understand that I couldn't give any part of a rats' anatomy for State and City Gov. that has criminalized the Constitution. My "homework" in their regard ends at that treason.
Just for starters, get it through your head that if self defense weren't illegal in NYC, the criminals would have exponentially less effect. Dead thugs can't play the knock-out game.

 

Why don't you want to band cars? They kill more people a year then guns. And don't tell me cars are not a weapon, if you band the guns a person could just hit you with his/her car.

 

We don't want to ban cars, we just want to make the speed limit 5mph across the country and limit them to 2 gallon gas tanks. When we do that we make the world safer. These car extremists keep fighting us on necessary changes though. When will the car culture wake up to the reality of the dangers of cars.

 

In past and more recent history, the greatest mass terrorist murders have been by explosives, not weapons. I gather anti-gunners prefer terrorist bombers over terrorist shooters.

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That is the raging of anti-gunners - that you can't trust them with a gun.

 

An explosive is a weapon. Hints the term nuclear weapon. It is what propels the bullet out of the barrel.

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Agreed. People that want to take our guns also need weapons to take them.

 

so are you implying or insinuating that the ONLY people who illegally obtain guns for the sole purpose of committing a criminal act are liberals? Proof please.

As for your example....people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones:

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...y-shoots-self-eye-while-trying-adjust-bra-gun

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...s-life-upset-about-rumors-that-he-was-jewish/

http://chicago.suntimes.com/politic...idate-mike-bost-once-shot-and-killed-a-beagle

 

See folks, when pressed Regular Joe uses his willful ignorance like a shield against any and all facts that contradict his dogma.
That's called intellectual dishonesty and cowardice, Joseph. Come back when you're ready to debate rationally and factually.

For your information: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/politics/27guns.html?_r=0

Lax State Gun Laws Tied to Crimes in Other States

 

Your argument is deteriorating faster and faster as you deny facts and avoid direct discussion of them

when faced with inevitable capitulation, you throw up the absurd "what if". First off, I NEVER STATED OR ADVOCATED THE BANNING OF ALL GUNS, AND DEFY YOU TO QUOTE ME IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS WHERE I DID. My entire point has been the sheer idiocy of giving an Uzi to a child!

Secondly, like it or not commercial cars are NOT designed to kill people. If that happens, it's called an ACCIDENT. Guns are designed to kill or pretend to kill (i.e., target pistols). No one steals a car to kill someone else or hold-up people/stores (hard to fit a car in your coat pocket, you know), and last time I checked, war is not fought with cars trying to crash each other. Also, a hell of a lot more people drive than own guns.....so yeah, there's a difference in fatalities.

You need to stop grasping at straws....makes your argument all the more absurd.

 

your absurd supposition and conjecture is only surpassed by your agreement with the silliness proposed by Zorro. See how I answered him. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=418990&p=1065335671#post1065335671

 

I wonder if she used an Uzi when she was 9.

 

Nobody steals a car to kill someone because we have guns. Take the guns away and you will see all sorts of strange murders. I don't know about you, but if somebody is set on killing me, please give me the bullet. I don't want to get my body and head bashed in by a bat. I don't want my throat getting slit. You see it don't matter what it is a criminal will find a way. A law abiding citizen is only going to use a gun for protection. And no government is trustworthy, so I don't want my name on a list either.

 

Fear of the unknown. Simple as that. Besides, everyone thinks they are right.

 

lol...strawman argument