Hands Off Operation Warp Speed

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    It is reality, Bunker Boy had nothing to do with the bioNtech/Pfizer vaccine
     
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    If the US was so uninvolved, how come we have a plane load of vaccine headed this way? Only waiting approval by the US before distribution begins. That sounds like Warp Speed to me. Damn, Trump is good. Stuck his hand in and came out with the goodies.
     
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    Not necessarily. It could be made a requirement for continued employment. I was forced to take vaccinations at the threat of not getting my undergraduate degree. I couldn't prove that I had them because those records were not kept for whatever reason.
     
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    AFAIK, the USA hasn't purchased anything.
    Only stated we wanted to.
    Has congress sent any money out?
     
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    Any proof of your claims?
    Link please. I have heard nothing on any of your claims.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    I don’t think we’d be where we are now with this if there was any doubt it was safe.
     
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    Just because Dirty Donald chose to name the worldwide search for a vaccine to immunize against Covid 19,has nothing to do with it's development. THAT WAS STRICTLY IN THE HANDS AND MINDS OF MEDICAL SCIENTISTS and the natural human tendency to try to be first especially for the pharmaceutical companies. There is money to be made.
     
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    Because the US bought from bioNtech 100 million doses. They are now getting their share, produced in Belgium.
    The EU bought 200 millions, they get their share and other countries bought more doses and they will get their share.
    BioNtech will produce 1.3 billion doses next year in Germany and they are sold out and Germany financed the production factory.
    Nothing Bunker Boy.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Completely discounting the fact that Trump knew about all of this before all the scientists.
     
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    I had no doubt about it, thought it would be 2 month earlier, the way bioNtech data was looking.
    Its a Manhattan project, so to speak.
     
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    Kim did, too.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Yes it does.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    We are but the vaccine gets us over the top.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump said we would have a vaccine. Our scientists doubted we would have one for years. And then he managed to get his hands on this vaccine that the scientists said would not be available. Your story does not hold up under scrutiny. Either that or Trump is a whole lot smarter than democrats give him credit for.
     
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    If we didn't pay for them, we have no business bitching about how they're dolled out.

    ...tho I'm doubtful that we didn't pay for them. If not, how were they paid for?
     
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    bioNtech is listed on NASDAQ, I paid for it, bought stock in March. German Government and the EU invested in the company, not the US government.
    Bought curevac the day they went public, NASDAQ.
    Both were no-brainers.
    Pfizer, bioNtech, Germany and the EU paid for the development of the vaccine and its production.
    Nobody else.
    Well folks like me, the investors. Making a very nice little profit.
     
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    Democrats, really, I mean honestly.
    Is that all you have.
    I am German, my dear friend, a Kraut, not a Democrat.

    groeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoeoehl
     
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    You are avoiding my point. In spite of your claimed noninvolvement by Trump, the US is ending up with a vaccine in a couple of weeks. About a year ahead of all predictions by the scientists. Then we have two more manufacturers. Like I said, either Trump is a whole lot smarter than the democrats give him credit for or he had a lot to do with it. I could care less which. The vaccine is coming long before the scientists said was possible. Most likely everyone in the US who wants vaccinated will get vaccinated by mid year. It would have been mid 2022 according to the scientists.

    Then we have the democrats saying they would never take a vaccine which Trump had something to do with. All the more for the republicans.
     
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    Actually it was Biden.
    It only took him a week to get it.
     
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    I have little doubts that the democrats will figure out a way to give him credit for it.
     
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    the fact that Trump has not been involved does make me feel better about it
     
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    we paid for ours, other countries are paying for theirs
     
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    He disregarded his scientists and correctly forecast that we would get a lot earlier than the scientists expected.
     
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    Trump predicted it would be here over and over, when he was wrong he just guessed again - lol, eventually he would be right

    he also predicted it would be gone when it warmed up, ect....

    he wasn't predicting anything, he was playing it down
     
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