Handwriting Analysis Done On Obama Birth Certificate

gee casper, anyone can avoid facts...

 

can you show us this report confirming it to be a forgery?

 

286000 views for this video. the anti birthers will say it was me watching the same video 28600 times... lol

[video=youtube;CHAM3hRI8_Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y[/video]

it would be swell if one of you bots could post some pictures of other registrations with 2 digit years. now would be the time.

 

America is full of stupid people who can't read the statutes and are easily duped by charlatans..

8 USC § 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

 

We are not talking about citizenship, we are talking about presenting a forged document.

 

that would explain why there are so many Obama speeches, and "everything else Obama" on youtube... lol

 

my main interest has always been; did they ever use the power of the office to cover up anything that we should know about that is contrary to the story put forth... you know, for general consumption.

 

You are talking about 'presenting a forged document' but since the State of Hawaii sent the document to Obama, and certified it as a true and correct copy, Barack Obama- and the rest of us- have every reason to believe that this is just another wild and whacky birther claim.

 

has anyone seen pictures of other draft registrations from 1980 ??

 

The Corsi/Zullo book contains images of other draft registrations from 1980. In one of these supposedly authentic postal cancellations, the "O" in "HONOLULU" is missing. The Cold Case Posse has disproven their own theory with their own evidence, but confirmation bias on the part of birthers makes them blind to such things. This whole date stamp thing is nonsense in so many ways that it isn't even funny.

 

Anyone with a 7th grade education can read the citizenship statutes.

Retired CIA? are you joking?

 

i mean hawaiian registrations with full year. hey was he a day late doc ?? august has thirty one days you know... LOL

i've found 3 different dates so far. two on the form one here...

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lol... margot....

 

I think he was a captain in the army and a west point grad, the rest I don't know. I don't think he's a forensic document expert. the stalking, not so much, that's just distraction fluff.

I really don't know anything about any of the obots, it's all just theory anyway. but like a flock of lemmings, they all tend to change direction and altitude at the same time, i'm still not sure who is actually driving the boat.

 

has anyone found a Hawaiian draft registration from 1980, or around, with just 2 digits yet ??

 

Birthers are like holocaust deniers and creationists.

No amount of evidence is enough. their positions are not based on careful deliberation of all available evidence, they are based solely and wholly on faith.

Truth just bounces off their foreheads as they smuggly demand more and more detail.

I wonder if any of these tactics are familiar to the "anti-birther" crowd. The actual subject matter of these "rules" is completely different since it describes the arguments/tactics of one of other above mentioned groups, but the TACTICS seem to be applicable to any wingnut argument attempting to revise history.


1. Creamed Mush with Fog Sauce -- Never provide evidence for your assertions. In fact, respond to demands for evidence the way Dracula responds to crucifixes. Do anything you can to avoid it. Throw insults. Change the subject. Obfuscate. Laugh derisively. Claim you already gave the evidence or that someone else did. But never provide any evidence yourself (unless you provide an incomplete or incomprehensible citation along with it).

2. Heads-I-Win-Tails-You-Lose -- Demand that all evidence for the Holocaust be proved genuine (dodging any discussion of what that proof would consist of), and also demand that all your unsubstantiated assertions be proved false. That way, you never bear any burden of proof.

3. Hello, I'm a Cremation Expert -- Claim that the 52 Auschwitz furnaces could not have had the capacity to burn 4,756 corpses per day because modern commercial crematoriums don't have such a capacity. When its pointed out to you that there's no comparison between ordinary commercial crematoriums and those built in the camps, for a variety of reasons -- e.g. coffins were not used, one can cremate more than one corpse in a single retort, etc. -- ignore this and repeat the claim.

5. Sticks and Stones -- If you're being wiped out with evidence and reasoning you cannot refute, you can always take refuge in complaining about the language being used by your adversaries. For example, if they say, "I've already explained that it takes less gas to kill people than lice, and therefore there are fewer cyanide residues remaining on the gas chamber walls than on the delousing chamber walls, you moron," you can respond by complaining about their use of the word "moron." You can actually evade quite a bit of serious discussion by spending a lot of time condescendingly lecturing the newsgroup about their use of trashy language. But this approach doesn't work very well in building credibility. You may view yourself as an arbiter of social discourse but you'll actually come off like a den-mother scurrying around excoriating the little Cub Scouts to behave themselves.

5. Sticks and Stones -- If you're being wiped out with evidence and reasoning you cannot refute, you can always take refuge in complaining about the language being used by your adversaries. For example, if they say, "I've already explained that it takes less gas to kill people than lice, and therefore there are fewer cyanide residues remaining on the gas chamber walls than on the delousing chamber walls, you moron," you can respond by complaining about their use of the word "moron." You can actually evade quite a bit of serious discussion by spending a lot of time condescendingly lecturing the newsgroup about their use of trashy language. But this approach doesn't work very well in building credibility. You may view yourself as an arbiter of social discourse but you'll actually come off like a den-mother scurrying around excoriating the little Cub Scouts to behave themselves.

7. The "What's It Mean?" Spiral of Infinity -- Try to keep your opponents off balance by constantly shifting or questioning the definitions of words. For example, if your opponent states that historians generally agree that 1 million Jews were killed in gas chambers at Auschwitz during the Holocaust, you can ask, what do you mean by "historian" or what do you mean by "Jew" or what do you mean by "agree?" Alternatively, when confronted with the evidence that Himmler called for the "ausrotten" of the Jews, argue that ausrotten doesn't really mean extermination. When proof of that definition is provided by German dictionaries and German speakers on the newsgroup, just ignore it.

11. The Great Leap -- This tactic goes like this: If one piece of testimony about the Holocaust seems unreliable, then ALL testimony about the Holocaust is unreliable. If one Holocaust witness may have recanted something on the stand, then all other Holocaust witnesses are liars. If some camp prisoners did not starve to death, then NONE of them starved to death. etc. But be careful. This is a double-edged sword -- someone may use the well-documented lies of other revisionists to conclude that YOU are a liar as well.

14. If you don't want to look like a total buffoon, there's always the pseudo-academic, above-the-fray approach. With a huge dose of arrogance and superiority, explain that you are neither a revisionist nor any other "label", merely someone with a healthy skepticism about everything, including Holocaust history (ALL of it), and that you are conducting your own research to determine for yourself whether certain Holocaust incidents actually took place. Pretend to be totally impartial (despite the avalanche of Holocaust evidence you would encounter the minute you actually began any legitimate research), but in your posts only question the Holocaust historians' statements, not revisionists' statements.

17. Although all of your arguments will be consistently blown to smithereens, just wait a few days or weeks and then re-post them.

18. Remember that the revisionist community is peopled mainly by racists, white-supremacists, Israel-bashers, and Nazis. This means that everyone except these kinds of people will dismiss you. But don't let that stop you. Don't let your Fellini-esque, internally inconsistent, un-researched, hypocritical distortions and lies prevent you from continuing to post. After all, you're fighting for the truth (as you'd like it to be).

http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Exhib/HowtoEngl.html

 

Yes.

Here's one.

 

thanks frank, I will transmit this message to Vladimir...

it should say yes... here's the only one.

 

Since the only claimed "evidence of fraud" is a common and completely ordinary 2 digit postage cancellation it doesn't matter if there is "only" one or thousands. We are once again confronted with a Cold Case Posse "investigation" that is so incompetent as to inspire hilarity.

But hey, when your "lead investigator" is a used car salesman, what idiot would expect anything better?

 

The reason the marginal marks in the PDF are masked is because the Xerox 7655 WorkCentre machine that scanned the document and made it into a pdf has an automatic "edge erase" function that is used to remove things like staples in the corner. It puts a mask all around the edge of documents it scans. This is normal.

Birther image analysis consists of pushing the level of detail in the analysis to the point that the observer is beyond their competence. They then declare it an unexplained anomaly, and evidence of fakery. It actually proves that they don't know enough to have an opinion.

 

Apart from the Cold Case Posse evidence being debunked, the debunking itself proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the so-called image experts the CCP used are incompetent and basically "full of it." They were not only wrong--what they said was nonsense. They gave authoritative, expert-sounding opinions, that were so much hot air.

 

but hey !


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funny they say the exact same thing about you doc.

 

Same or BS, different day. Psssst, YouTube is a source of nothing except entertainment.

 

caaassper... the friendly Ghost....

[video=youtube;OlyR9U1pQ70]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlyR9U1pQ70[/video]

 

My handle has nothing to do with the nice little ghost.