Happy 81st Birthday, Joe!

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  1. conservaliberal

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    Way back on November 20, 1942, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. graced the world with his presence. Happy 81st birthday, Joe!

    Gosh, you've been eligibile for full retirement on Social Security for the past eighteen years... maybe you'll want to give retirement some thought now... before it's too late? Hey, once you 'kick the bucket', your Social Security payments stop, and you can't 'will' those payout benefits to anyone else, so... maybe it's time to start thinking seriously about 'the afterlife', and, 'doing the right thing'....

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    Happy B-Day, Joe!
     
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    Woah! I never noticed before but I have the same birthday as Joe Biden. November 20th. And the similarities don't end there. I'm half his age at 41, having been born in 1982 vs his 1942. And maybe I want his job someday. Yay president! I hope I can be president when I'm Joe's age.
     
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    Happy b-day. May you have 100 more..
     
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    81 may not even be close to his end game.

     
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    By the time you're 81, forty years from now, maybe medical science will have perfected methods and medicine that will enable someone at an age over eighty to be able to function with enough mental acuity to actually do the job of the President of the United States, with the focused mentality and energy that this unique position requires. But, that time is not now -- for either medical science or Joe Biden.... '

    Can''t the Democrat puppet-masters find another mediocre career politician to do their bidding? This one was past his "best by" date decades ago....
     
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    Unfortunately as long as the republicans keep electing the people they are the DNC knows they can run just about anyone and prevail.

    When is the last time your team actually won due to the will of the people? Two decades?
     
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    if it wasn't for Affirmative action for the smaller States, Republicans would never win anymore, even Trump was an Affirmative Action hire
     
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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Mr. President.
     
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    I don't have a "team" anymore. Since 2017 I've been an 'unaffiliated' Independent. But, not to be evasive, the last time I had a "team" that elected a president that actually did the "will of the people" -- superbly -- was back in the 1980's, and the magnificent leader's name was Ronald Reagan!

    I know that's way before the time of many who post here. All I can say is that the country was in horrible shape economically, militarily, and virtually without much "morale" left by the end of 1980. But by the time Reagan was gone eight years later, our military was mightier than ever, our economy was powerful and strong with inflation completely beaten into submission, and our chief adversary in the world, the Soviet Union, was right on the brink of implosion. The once-threatening Russian empire finally did completely collapse, a mere two years after Reagan left office.... :applause:
     
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    Regan and Reaganomics is 50% of what is wrong with this nation — that is the moment the wealth divide started amplifying and it hasn’t stopped.
     
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    During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion.[85] This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[9] Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.[41]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

    It's easy to create the illusion of economic prosperity by borrowing.
     
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    Wealth devide my arse. Under Jimmy Carter the mortagage rates were so high I never thought I would ever be able to buy a house. People were fist fighting at gas pumps during the period of odd/even rationing when many gas stations were only open for a few hours a day. That all changed once Reagan was elected. For liberals. tax cuts and letting people spend more of the money they earned is a terrible thing.
     
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    If you are a "personal results" type of guy, you must think that Clinton was the best president ever! Pretty much everything that was bad declined precipitously under him (crime) and everything that was good went up. By far the best bottom line results in my lifetime of any president.
     
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    Not best of all time IMHO, but OK. But I liked him better than Bush, Obama, Trump, or Biden.
     
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    Things were good in 1990s, especially the economy, but people hate Clinton because they were told to hate him . Newt Gingrich made sure of it, and his era as the speaker started the cycle of divisiveness in US. Afterwards Dems took revenge on Bush, GOP took revenge on Obama etc, and it continues. But everyone loved Reagan, as was evidenced by this election map. Even California voted for him. Did he triple the debt? Yes. Did he fight proxy wars against USSR? Yes. Those are divisive issues today, but back then they were accepted.

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    While Reagan is typically credited for beating inflation in RW circles, it was actually Fed Chair Paul Volcker who did it by raising interest rates. Paul Volcker was nominated by Jimmy Carter.

    Inflation actually began long before Carter took office, and continued through his term because of factors mostly outside of his control (OPEC embargo, oil crisis, baby boomers, etc). Of course, voters usually don't care who they feel causes their economic predicament, they just punish them at the ballot box. That's why Carter got a bad rep and Reagan got the benefit, although it was just for the reason that the OPEC countries eventually just couldn't sustain the price controls anymore. It had nothing to do with Carter or Reagan, Reagan just was lucky to have Volcker beat inflation, and oil becoming cheap again.
     
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    I voted for Reagan in 1984 (and Bush in 1988 )

    However, the irony of that is by 1987, Reagan's mind was a pile of runny scrambled eggs... Biden will be gaffing until death, but I suspect he'll still be way more capable of Presidenting at the end of his 2nd term than Ronnie was.

    If not, each side will be even for having elected a future senile POTUS.

    Still, no better alternative on the menu.
     
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    Nonsense. Reagan was definitely losing it at the end of his second term, but Biden never had it, not even when he was 46. In 1988 Biden couldn’t even make it to the Iowa Caucuses. He was a completely failed candidate.
     
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    Yes, Carter nominated him, because of Volker's idea of not raising rates, but by floating them, and as soon as they did it, the rates went through the roof, and eventually brought down inflation. Presidents dont create of fix inflation, but they do get the blame and praise for creating or fixing them. Reagan didn't free the hostages either, they were released as per agreement made before the elections, but he got the credit for it anyway.

    Yes, he was never an inspirational figure, or the Type A+ personality which presidents usually are. He won because people wanted Trump out. That's all.
     
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    Uh-huh. And Reagan was an actor. His trade was literally telling people what they want to hear, and appearing good on camera, during an age when radio used to be the primary method of coverage. His opposition had no televised media training where Reagan was practiced in it.

    Reagan hid his incompetence and deception better thats about it.
     
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    My, my... what a '****-storm' gets stirred up among libs whenever someone has a word of praise for Ronald Reagan!

    I never said Reagan was 'perfect' and I didn't say he stopped inflation or brought on a huge, welcome wave of prosperity to the nation ALL BY HIMSELF. I've often given posted praise for Reaganomics AND Fed. Chairman, Paul Volcker -- who may have been appointed by Carter, but couldn't DO anything to fight inflation until Reagan was elected. And, by late 1980 the economy was so unbalanced and totally ****ed-up that it took Volcker AND Reaganomics until the end of Q2, 1983 to finally get things on the right track again....

    Did Reagan borrow money? Yes, and it's a damned good thing he did! By the time Reagan was elected, the Soviet Union had taken over Afghanistan and was directly threatening to roll over West Germany all the way to France. Do any of you 'older' guys not remember this?! After the Vietnam war 'wind-down' our military was an anemic paper-tiger, and nobody knew this better than our adversaries in the Kremlin. By the time Reagan left office, as I said, our military was robust, well-equipped, and projecting strength all over the world -- and -- the Soviet Union was imploding and teetering on the edge of collapse (which it finally did, in December 1991). But, yeah, it cost money... a lot of money... because it costs money to defend the United States of America.... :omg:
     
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    Unless there is a rule that prohibits a person from running for POTUS at a certain "age", no one has the right to tell him he should retire. Many people work beyond the so called retirement age...by choice and if their jobs are fulfilling and purposeful and give their life meaning........that is what matters.
    He has shown that he can handle a great deal of stress , negotiate well as his job demands, and has quietly achieved a lot . The right just don't want to give him any credit and want to "dispose" of him because of his age.
    That is an age bias. And "retirement is not always what it is cracked up to be. People need to have a purpose in life. Plus hard work is an important ethos in this country. As is contributing to society.
    A very happy Birthday Mr. President. Live Long and Prosper.
     
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    I had no problem with Reagan's first 5.5 years.. I was just proactively comparing his final 2.5 years to what Bidens might be..

    I wonder what your response might be if I had several words of praise for Mrs. Clinton??
     

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