Hardcore anti-vaxxers are terrorists

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  1. pitbull

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    Austria mourns suicide of doctor targeted by anti-vaccine campaigners
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...etted-by-anti-vaccine-campaigners-2022-07-30/
    What's wrong with anti-vaxxers? If they're afraid of vaccination, then they should simply not be vaccinated. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

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    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/uni...-obsessed-us-man-accused-killing-chinese-food

    People kill people for all sorts of stupid reasons.
     
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    i agree that killing vaccine proponents is a stupid reason. the duck sauce guy did have a legitimate complaint.

    "right to life" shooters are my favorites, because nothing shows how deeply you respect gods creation quite like putting 5,56mm holes into a gynecologist.
     
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    Death threats unfortunately are commen when people get in the public sphere on passionate topics. I don't know if there were any doctors advocating against mandated vaccinations publically...but it would have been the same. They should have done an autopsy...not sure why that was decided against. Why were investigations dropped against suspects? Police should take death threats seriously and we have the tech tools to track indiduals down.
     
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    If they should simply not be vaccinated, then the true believer should stop trying to force people to be vaccinated.
     
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    In a world that sees a surprisingly prominent Radical Islam twisting their religion to justify mass killing, it is not all that shocking to me that a twisted interpretation of Christianity could rationalize that killing a person that in their mind kills thousands of babies per year could be a righteous act. Fortunately, that is such a rare act that it is perhaps decades since this has happened. The last time I remember that happening was the 90's.
     
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    I will never feel sorry for someone who is so mentally weak that they commit suicide.
     
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    Perhaps there's another view.
    The pressure to force vaccination and the actions taken to punish those who will not do so- exceed those of people resisting, by a factor of probably a thousand to one.
    They were people making personal decisions for themselves, feeling the risk exceeds the benefit. Those pushing the vaccine were trying to impose their decision- on everybody else.
    There is a fundamental difference between the authority for you to choose for yourself- and for you to force your decision on me. If that is not to be respected, then you give up your right to decide anything personal for yourself.

    We deprived healthy, competent and sometimes critically important people of jobs, of access to medical care up to and including life-saving transplants, shut out medical professionals who did not want to take vaccinations, soldiers, teachers, police and all kinds of people- all in acts of coercion, punished for refusing to take a vaccination which has proven itself to be only partially effective, and is now proven to be producing a substantial and growing list of long-term negative side-effects. Some are effects on vital body functions, and the real data won't be known for years or decades. While the vaccine was certainly beneficial, these risks were unknown- and we are now looking at the "booster" schedule being extended because it isn't quite what they thought it was.

    One key issue is simply that if you fully believed in the vaccine, and you took it- WHY do you fear those who did not? Do you not trust your own choice, do not trust that you are protected?
    If you trust the science, you are. IF your feeling of confidence requires moral support by everyone else agreeing with you.... You have a problem unrelated to the vaccine in the first place.

    Has any anti-vax action deprived you of your job or access to anything?

    The persecution of those refusing vaccination- and it WAS persecution- is bound to produce some strong reactions. It's surprising that the damage done by the persecutors didn't produce more.
    Losing your career and income because you won't do what I want to ease my own fears tends to be a very offensive and unjust event. For many- the most memorable result was the loss of confidence in the honor of their fellow man, the rationality of trusting anyone. Not a good thing for a free society.
     
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    And so it is, Pitbull imitates Bret Baier. :lol:
     
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    Why do blacks beat up elderly Asians in NYC and san Francisco?
     
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    I agree. Unfortunately mandates are generating a lot of anger and vitriol.
     
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    What's wrong with homophobes? If they're afraid of non-heterosexuals, then they should simply not be non-heterosexual. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

    What's wrong with pro-life people? If they're afraid of abortions, then they should simply not have abortions or pay for abortions. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

    What's wrong with racists? If they're afraid of <their target of hate>, then they should simply leave them alone. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

    What's wrong with Christians? If they're afraid of non-Christians, then they should simply not be non-Christian. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

    What's wrong with fat shamers? If they're afraid of fat people, then they should simply not be fat. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

    What's wrong with anti-legal immigration-ists? If they're afraid of immigrants, then they should simply not be an immigrant or go back where they came from if their ancestors were immigrants. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?

    What's wrong with <BEING NON-JUDGMENTAL>? If they're afraid of <whatever>, then they should simply not be <whatever>. Why do they terrorize other people who have different opinions?
     
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    Good and true generalization. Usually, generalizations have many flaws, but this one looks perfect.
     
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    How about we make you a deal? You can get all the vaccinations and boosters your little heart desires but you leave other adults alone to make their own damn decisions?
     
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    Seems the simple concept of you being responsible for controlling yourself but having no right to control others is not widely accepted....

    Humanity is a work in progress. I think we are a bit behind the curve sometimes.
     
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    Parents whose children were given heart conditions and then got covid any way from shots the were promised were safe and effective and you wonder why some people are pissed? Maybe next time you shouldn't insist that children get vaccines that are more dangerous to them than the disease it's supposed to protect them from.
     
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    So what’s your opinion on straight white males?
     
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    They are really anarchists more than terrorists. I mean if you feel so strongly about them, don't take them. I'll support you. But when you are making up crap to try to convince others not to take them, or to take quacky alternatives, you are working a dark sinister angle that has nothing to do with your vaccine decision. Besides, I suspect the most rabid online anti-vaxxers were really the first in line to get one.
     
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    Words so true.
     
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    The rationale of the individual(s) who want to take the vaccines is via coercion and fear. As for those who don't want the vax, still know the risks. Those risks are not from coercion or fear, but the knowledge/understanding of the "science" is far worse and out weigh all other risks.
     
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    It is said to be a trait for attention seeking.
     
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    Sadly, because they can.
     
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    And what about the fact that you will be spreading a contagious disease?
     
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    Since I have not and do not have it it would not be possible. It seems it's far more prevalent amongst the vaccinated.

    But you let me know if they can produce a real vaccine that's effective at preventing you from getting it and proven to be safe.
     
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