Hawaii proposes repeal of the Second Amendment .....

Uhm we also have no Republicans controlling a state filing legislation to repeal the 2nd. I would have thought you could figure out that much. LMAO.

 

Oh.....and you think people take you seriously? Now that is a knee slapper. Even Larry the Cable Guy is laughing with that one. lol

 

Climate change ? How can a party platform disagree with the consensus of the entire world of legitimate reaserch and not be idiotic. Climate change is the bellwether of intelligent discourse that doesn’t exist on the right.

 

You also have no republicans proclaiming we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States. I would have thought you could figure out that much. LMAO.

 

Climate Change has nothing do with the 2nd Amendment. You do know that Right. lol.

Not a really good deflection from the Idiocy of Hawaiian Democrats. Just sayin.

 

Uhm, its Republicans that have said the Southern Border states have a Security Problem. Where have you been. ROFLMAO.

Btw who is giving you these strange talking points?

 

Uhm, it's Republicans who made up an implied immigration clause and created an illegal problem for them to complain about. Where have you been and who is giving you your strange talking points?

 

The Immigration clause doesn't have anything to do with the 2nd Amendment. Hence your Strange talking point. Did they teach you in school that the Immigration Clause is tied to the 2nd amendment. If so......get your money back.


Immigration and Citizenship | Constitutional ...
https://www.theusconstitution.org/issues/immigration-citizenship
Summary. The Fourteenth Amendment’s Citizenship Clause is one of the most important provisions of the Constitution, guaranteeing birthright citizenship. CAC uses this and other constitutional provisions, along with federal statutes, to ensure that the rights of all Americans and immigrants are secured.


Here.....you should study up before talking about issues and trying to tie them to the 2nd Amendment.

List of United States immigration laws - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immigration_laws
A number of major federal statues, executive actions, and court decisions relating to immigration procedures and enforcement have been enacted for the United States. Proposed laws, state, and municipal laws, court decisions, and regulations relating to immigration are not listed on this page.

Immigration and Nationality Act | USCIS
www.uscis.gov › Legal Resources
The INA has been amended many times over the years and contains many of the most important provisions of immigration law. The INA is contained in the United States Code (U.S.C.). The U.S. Code is a collection of all the laws of the United States.

 

Here is a new argument for the 2nd amendment from a leftist.

The Immigration clause.

 

it is our militia act that has to do with naturalization, because there is no express immigration clause. an uniform rule, every time we have to quibble.

 

Bellwether, you need to look up the meaning.

I know that talking with a dog about the second amendment is useless. Why ? Because talking with a dog about anything is useless. If conservatives take something as obvious as climate change and twist, distort, prevaricate and miss state everything they can, it’s obvious they’ll be equally disingenuous about the 2@.

 

It’s obvious having two complimentary ideas in one’s head at once, is problematic gun legumes.

 

Anyone suggesting disagreement concensus is somehow rendered unintelligent is themselves guilty of the charge. Any explanation provided by scientific inquiry is subject to question; that is accepted as integral to scientific inquiry and the process of expanding understanding... consensus has little to do with it. Else Einstein wouldn’t have inquired beyond Newton, or any of the others that question previous thinker/experimenters. There are those that even now question the once heretic, Einstein’s TOR or the completeness of the amazingly successful predictability of the standard model of particle physics. That people like you make such statements is the product of following current doctrine and dogma propagated by others not because you can argue yourself out of a bag on the topic. Any scientist holding true to the scientific method means of inquiry not having the mind of God (or the Gods), understands no matter how good of an understanding they have, how well their explanatory models appear to work, they can be wrong and no matter how much they think they know, more questions exist than answers. As for the climate change issue... considering the complexity of the parts that contribute to climate, no one has any where near a complete understanding and credible questions remain. Here’s one of the founders of GreenPeace discussing climate change and the ‘so called consensus’


Of course, by your conjecture, he must be on the Right (I doubt he’d agree) and is an idiot.

 

And here is the US military.
https://climateandsecurity.org/tag/u-s-military/
Check mate. We’ve just out numbered you a thousand to one.

 

BS. I know you didn’t bother to watch the videos because each on is longer than 30 min, meaning you didn’t even try to see if there was another point of view before your post. That in itself tells me you are blindly following dogma from ignorance and, further, just demonstrate it in real time. Ignoring relevant information is willful ignorance. That’s checkmate.
BTW, NASA findings are discussed.

 

Speaking of NASA and it’s official positron
https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/nasa-knows/what-is-climate-change-58.html

Why should I listen to your bogus little videos. Did you bother to consider the web sites of every university in the world ?

 

Lets start with the top ten universities.
http://hub.globalccsinstitute.com/insights/top-10-universities-study-climate-change

What do you give me....videos by lackies. I give you REAL INSTITUTIONS. Check mate.

 

Little videos by paid lackies ?
How about the US govt ?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...imate-change-is-real-and-humans-are-to-blame/

 

Aren’t libertarians suppose to trust corporate America and the free enterprise system ?

corporate America fighting back vs Trump.
https://slate.com/business/2017/05/...ate-america-from-fighting-climate-change.html

Isn’t that what being a libertarian is about ?

 

The same united states government that caused the disaster in the city of Flint in the state of Michigan?

 

Only YOU libertarians and Trump not to agree to sign on with Paris accord.
https://www.dw.com/en/trump-increasingly-isolated-as-nicaragua-to-sign-paris-agreement/a-40630819

Trump disagrees with his govt.

 

You get your news from Fox
That was the state givt in charge when that was happening.
The libertarian way, let the locals. That’s on you and yours.

 

What has the united states government done that is not disagreeable with?

 

Little, now that your man Trump is in charge.

 

https://grist.org/article/the-epa-failed-flint-now-we-know-exactly-how/

As if the EPA hasn’t disappointed us enough this year, a report released today by the Office of the Inspector General found that the agency consistently dropped the ball during the Flint water crisis.


In a blistering 74-page report, the agency watchdog critiqued EPA Region 5, the district responsible for protecting human health and the environment in Michigan, for an inadequate response to the water crisis that exposed thousands to lead and caused a 58 percent spike in fetal deaths in the largely black community.


The mistakes are sobering. Despite receiving 87 citizen complaints about water quality between May 2014 and January 2016 — including many that directly referenced lead — the EPA did not take any significant action before releasing an emergency order on Jan. 21, 2016.


Instead, the report says, the EPA sent the residents form letters which recommended that they contact the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality or Flint water officials. In 11 cases, the EPA sent no response at all.


“As I have said before, the Flint water crisis was a failure of all levels of government,” said Dan Kildee, Democratic representative from the Michigan district that includes Flint, in a statement reacting to the report.


EPA officials had the chance to save Flint residents from months of exposure to toxins. The report cites five possible oversight actions that the EPA could have taken under the Safe Drinking Water Act, including alerting Flint residents about possible harms and acting in the place of state authorities when there is “substantial endangerment” to human health.


But in almost every case, officials deferred to their state counterparts, rather than using their legal authority to step in. As the report’s authors note, such oversight tools — like most tools out there — are “only effective when used.”


The OIG also pointed to a memo written by Region 5 scientist Miguel Del Toral, who repeatedly warned the region’s Director Susan Hedman that the lead levels in Flint water were at sky-high levels. (Anything over 15 ppb is considered unsafe — one home tested at 13,000 ppb). Hedman later resigned when it became clear that she had attempted to suppress Del Toral’s findings.


According to the report, Hedman and other EPA officials “lacked a sense of urgency” to address the water issues. Instead they failed to communicate with state officials, displayed significant “management weaknesses,” and ultimately delayed the federal response to the crisis.


And while they waited, thousands of residents were exposed to unsafe water. The consequences, for some, could last a lifetime.


“Justice for Flint families comes in many forms,” Kildee said in his statement. “The release of this report is one form of holding those responsible accountable.”

Just as the FBI refused to investigate Nikolas Cruz when he went on the internet and bragged about his intent to commit a school shooting, the EPA refused to investigate complaints about the quality of the drinking water in the city of Flint.