How is it possible to give every American a health care ID with Obamacare that will be used all over the country and in every health care unit, but impossible to give everyone a voter ID that would be used in mostly one place and that would be in their voting district. This health care ID will access all your past health issues and prior medical problems and your social number and your name. But a voter ID would have your name. Could someone please explain this to me
Because not everyone will have one if your homeless, cannot prove income since your income is off the books and your state doesn't expand Medicaid and even then you need government ID to access the program and prove income you won't have the Health Care ID. Others will not carry one out of principle also the religious and others who protest carrying "antichrist ID" or whatever the reason.
Ok now if every state adopted Obama care would they not get a number? And you are trekking me if you don't have proof of income then you can't get a healthcare ID?
Not at all to get into a State Exchange you need proof of income among other things which they will check via the IRS and Social Security records. If you want Medicaid they require proof of income or lack of it with government "Real ID" to even access the program. Both options are based now on what you earn if your in the ACA guidelines so of course they will expect proof. Those walking for cash don't bank and many don't file income taxes I happen to do so and my income is just enough thank to creative accounting and some extra taxes send in to fall over 100% of the poverty line so I can get into the Federal Exchange when its ready. And for the Health Care ID card I would assume you need to be in the government system of programs a hospital if your homeless without ID ,very likely under the post 911 laws and rules, your unlikely to be registered. They will likely give you an in-house ID number that is not the same thing.
I'm sorry but if we can find a way to make an ID that would carry so much info and be nation wide. I find it hard to believe that we can't find a way to make an ID with you name on it.
Will this in house number be the same every time they return to the hospital? If so why can there be a number in house at their district voting area?
All of the states that are not expanding Medicaid will have a large number of uninsured that earn too little to qualify in the exchange so they will be exempt from the mandate. These people will still be able to get emergency treatment at a hospital and the state will pay the hospital which falls back to the tax payers. The same problem we have prior to the mandate will still be the same problem after the mandate.
I work for a homeless ID program one middle aged man has no birth certificate his only proof of birth is an entry in the family bible, lost in a fire. He was homeschooled and taught a trade by his father while he worked all over the homeschooling not exactly legal in some states and has no other records and can't find any living relatives. And his parents never applied for his SSN so he doesn't have that he like his father worked jobs for cash. Now he is unable to break this series of issues most not his fault. Another just can remember his passed much due to a mental disorder he was born somewhere in the Midwest not enough to peg where he was born. Such cases are rare but issues.
Are you listening to yourself? "Proof of birth?" The proof is that he is alive - no other proof is needed. Why do you submit yourself to the paper "you" the government has constructed for you? The paper you is not you. It does not even truly represent you. It is irrelevant but for its severe encroachment on your civil liberties.
I can see where you are coming from and I do understand there are a few rear cases and each one could be handle and be able to find a way to make it work. Even if it is like you said a in house number. If these people move you can just notify someone and show proof of the address change and the number would follow. You must see how this is just crazy that we can't figure out a way to have voter ID. I think if we could install such a huge system like Obamacare which will still leave millions uncovered. I would be willing to bet that we could install a voter ID system that would only leave just a few rare and strange cases out. Which each could be handled and corrected. Lets face it over 90 percent already have an ID. But you are telling me we can't figure out a way to get IDs to the small remaining few? Sorry I don't believe you.
I just find it ironic that a voter ID is an issue in America, and yet, in Mexico, you're required to show a federally issued voter ID before voting. - - - Updated - - - Proof of some type is needed to show that he's a citizen.
Not if we mark those who aren't citizens. Look at it this way: We secure our borders - perfectly. Then, we can insert this beloved RFID thing into the hands of those who aren't American citizens instead of punishing Americans for the voter fraud instigated by the Left and carried out with the help of illegals. Upon becoming a citizen, all rights under the Constitution would be recognized and the chip would be removed. Of course, my real beef with the birth certificate is that it is required to get a social security card, which is required to get a job. That basically means that I'm asking the Fed for a job from somebody else because they want to know exactly how much money I make. If you don't believe you're asking Federal permission when using your SSN, read the back. 'This card belongs to the Social Security Administration and you must return it if we ask for it.' Got that? Even though the number is yours, you surrender it when they say so - and if you can't get a job without it, then you're screwed. Not only that, but they are clearly letting you know that their power and legal standing is untouchable: "...you MUST return it..." just because we say so.
I don't see us securing the borders perfectly unless you plan on implementing a police state. It would make more sense just to allow citizens to use already existing IDs for voting.
I plan on implementing a non-posse comitatus zone of one mile around the entire US border. Then we can bring the boys back home from all these pointless wars and "police actions" and put them to work doing something that is actually relevant to national security. Also, it would create the added bonus of eliminating the ever-so-corrupt border patrol that isn't really checking for illegal immigrants. And I was only having fun with the RFID plan - that's a terrible idea, and of course we should use already-existing state ID to vote.
We need this for more then just to vote. How can they tell me they need all my data to keep me safe while there are people walking America's street and we Can Not ID these people to find out who they are. We have no idea. I'm not saying to go check everyone's ID but if for any reason it is need to find out who some is there should be a prompt and easy way. Maybe like an ID.
