Here is the smoking gun evidence in the hush money trial

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Without the Federal crime and even the FEC saying no campaign finance violation took place, it raises "reasonable doubt".

    The prosecutor can't just say "he committed another crime" and it be fact.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. Without an attempt to commit a federal crime it just makes it a misdemeanor. Maximum 1 year and 2 to 3 year probation, I believe is the guideline. Good enough. Just get Trump out of circulation so he doesn't commit any more crimes until he's sentenced for the more SERIOUS crimes he has committed.
     
  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    If it's just a misdemeanor, it will be nothing, because the statute of limitations has expired.

    "Get Trump out of circulation"? Thanks for being honest about what this really is...lol

    You even admit you want to skip the trials and go straight to sentencing.
     
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I meant assuming the mandate allowed for it
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    It will be what it will be. The statute of limitations, according to New York law, can be extended when the defendant moved out of state. Trump moved to Washington for four years. So the statute of limitations has not expired.

    That's why we put criminals in prison. So they are "out of circulation" and don't commit any more crimes. Why did YOU think we put criminals in prison?

    Me? If it were up to me he'd be in prison a long time ago. Trump can be thankful that it's not up to me.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, had Garland got in earlier We wouldn't be having these time issues we're having
     
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  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    The statute of limitations is extended fives years. What's 15 + 7?

    Trump went to Washington D.C. because he was serving in a public office. I'll bet that doesn't count as far as the statute of limitations go. I was in the Army for 23 years. My permanent address never changed from the one I wrote down on my enlistment papers. I was considered a resident of that state for the whole 23 years.

    We put people who have been convicted of crimes in prison as punishment for the crime they have been found guilty of committing.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whatever the judge says counts is what counts! And it looks to me like Trump has rubbed this judge the wrong way with his persistent contempt of court enough that he might not have any reason to grant him much consideration.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No, whatever the law says, counts. The judge can't make up laws as he goes.

    Even with the five year extension, the statute of limitations expired in 2022.
     
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    15+7 ?
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? The law already EXISTS! It's the judge's discretion if he applies it as written, or if he's lenient. One would think that Trump's continuous contempt of court is unlikely to move the judge to become sympathetic towards Trump.
     
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    Actually, the prosecutor can adduce evidence tending to show that his acts complained of were in furtherance of another criminal purpose, whether charged or not.
    Its then up to the JURY to decide if it be fact or fiction.

    The JURY, who is the "finder of fact" in any proceeding. Not the prosecution.


    Glad I could help clear up your gross ignorance of basic civil procedure.
     
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    Whichever law you're relying on that proves your claim.
     
  14. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Are you referring to the statute of limitations?

    § 30.10 Timeliness of prosecutions; periods of limitation.

    1. A criminal action must be commenced within the period of limitation
    prescribed in the ensuing subdivisions of this section.

    (c) A prosecution for a misdemeanor must be commenced within two years
    after the commission thereof


    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/CPL/30.10
     
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  15. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    That's why I said, "...the FEC saying no campaign finance violation took place, it raises "reasonable doubt'."

    A fair and unbiased jury should recognize that reasonable doubt.

    Granted, that won't happen in the Hush Money Trial.
     
  16. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. What's the problem? That equals 22. Correct?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That isn't what you said.
     
  18. truth and justice

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    Del
     
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    It's a felony charge so 5 years
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    ""Turns out that Weisselberg wrote all of this down, even on side notes on bank statements, the nature of the conspiracy.""

    Please show us these "side notes on bank statements"
     
  21. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    If the felony charge sticks. If not, 2 years.

    If the felony charge does stick, the limitations expired in 2022 (15 + 7).
     
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    16+7 and charges filed in 2023
     
  23. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Most of the counts occured in 2015.
     
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    The hoe has to pay the john.... Stormy still owes Trump $620k from the defamation suit.... is that motivation to get on the stand and lie or what???
     
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    They are now trying to stack 2 misdemeanors that the statute of limitations ran out on into a felony...
     
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