Here's some voter fraud....

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by VietVet, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. VietVet

    VietVet Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2017
    Messages:
    4,198
    Likes Received:
    4,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  2. Homer J Thompson

    Homer J Thompson Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    1,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When voter fraud is truly revealed you and the rest of your communist libs will deny it just like every other fact you have denied.
     
  3. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Messages:
    10,789
    Likes Received:
    4,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We're all sure voter fraud exists. The question is whether it exists on the scale that Trump claims it does. If not, then it isn't worth the extra scrutiny.

    I imagine incidents of voter fraud are particularly rare, especially among illegal immigrants who probably wouldn't want to risk getting caught and deported just to vote illegally.
     
  4. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2014
    Messages:
    5,543
    Likes Received:
    2,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Obama said they weren't going to be arrested.
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It doesn't take "massive fraud" to sway elections. Why are you willing to allow even the possibilty when there is a very effective way to help insure it does not occur?
     
    Oh Yeah likes this.
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What does what Trump says have to do with the thousandsof elections that are held across the country every year do you voter fraud is knly about the state elections for presidential electors? There are lots of small elsdtions with close results where just a few fraudulent votes could sway the election. Heck speaking of presidential elections just over 500 fraudulent votes could have change the 2000 race. So stop with the canard it has to be massive to count or affeft elections in this country.
     
  7. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Messages:
    10,789
    Likes Received:
    4,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Where did I say it has to be a massive count to affect elections? I said that if it doesn't exist on the scale Trump says it does (which by the way it doesn't) then it isn't worth investigating. That doesn't mean that some elections here and there won't be swayed by illegal voting. Rather, the cost of enforcement outweighs the benefit.
     
    MrTLegal likes this.
  8. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2008
    Messages:
    25,745
    Likes Received:
    1,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The cost is about 5 bucks, and the sovereignty of our nation is well worth it.
     
  9. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Messages:
    10,789
    Likes Received:
    4,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh yes. It will cost only $5 to enforce voter fraud in the US. I wonder what your basis is for that totally not made up estimate.

    And just out of curiosity, does the Russian interference also raise concerns of the sovereignty of our nation?
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017
    The Bear likes this.
  10. webrockk

    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2010
    Messages:
    25,361
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Despite devoting massive resources to solve the worst crime humans inflict upon each other, murder carries a 60% clearance rate. We're supposed to believe democratic process fraud investigators uncover and solve virtually every case.
     
  11. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2008
    Messages:
    25,745
    Likes Received:
    1,944
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A voter ID card.

    And of course it would. There is an investigation into that which everyone is complying with. Out of curiosity, don't you think that the investigation into voter fraud should be as well, if for no other reason to vindicate your beliefs or put a stop to what you accept threatens the democratic process?
     
  12. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Here's just a small list of voter fraud that was detected.

    A SAMPLING OF ELECTION FRAUD CASES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY

    The United States has a long and unfortunate history of election fraud. The Heritage Foundation is providing a list of election fraud cases from across the country, broken down by state, where individuals were either convicted of vote fraud, or where a judge overturned the results of an election. This is not an exhaustive list but simply a sampling that demonstrates the many different ways in which fraud is committed. Preventing, deterring, and prosecuting such fraud is essential to protecting the integrity of our voting process.

    462 cases

    742 criminal convictions

    It's all here -> https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/pdf/VoterFraudCases-8-7-15-Merged.pdf
     
  13. ThorInc

    ThorInc Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,183
    Likes Received:
    11,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Make sure you remember this statement when more info emerges in public on how deep the Russian 2016 election rigging actually went.
     
  14. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    13,595
    Likes Received:
    6,113
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fact: little government conservatives love to ignore the fact that they promote massive, elitist, statist government control over our lives in very peculiar ways. One is in the bedroom, another is at the ballot box and another is in the sanctity of our homes medicating ourselves how we choose.

    That, sir, is fact.
     
    Lucifer and Sallyally like this.
  15. tres borrachos

    tres borrachos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2015
    Messages:
    11,291
    Likes Received:
    6,577
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Sallyally likes this.
  16. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Non-sequiter.

    Try again

    It doesn't take "massive fraud" to sway elections. Why are you willing to allow even the possibilty when there is a very effective way to help insure it does not occur?
     
  17. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,925
    Likes Received:
    39,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What cost but interesting to see your shift from it doesn't happen ti not worth the cost and that local and state eldctions don't really matter.

    The whole "massive" thing is a strawman as noted just over 500 fraudulent votes could have changed the entire results in 2000.

    There is not rational justificate to not have voter ID when registering and when casting the vite.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017
    Bravo Duck likes this.
  18. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    More Than 800,000 Noncitizens May Have Voted in 2016 Election, Expert Says
     
  19. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,809
    Likes Received:
    38,167
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ah getting your propaganda from UK sources now, what's next, Sin Chew Daily?

    I especially like the comment section :)

    I guess the poop is the same everywhere LMAO
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2017
  20. Homer J Thompson

    Homer J Thompson Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    1,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Funny post seeing as you libs like to make everything mandatory or banned but here you go blaming the right for your style.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  21. Homer J Thompson

    Homer J Thompson Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    1,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I believe it is much worse than many think and would bet big money it isn't the Trump and Russia dog and pony BS, it is illegals and I have seen many videos of voting staff committing fraud.
     
  22. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is a thread specifically about voter fraud being truly revealed...and it is made by a liberal...
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  23. Homer J Thompson

    Homer J Thompson Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,583
    Likes Received:
    1,901
    Trophy Points:
    113
    True but seems once again on the wrong side.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  24. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The reason is because the "fix" is worse than the problem.

    Strict Voter ID laws are associated with a roughly 2% drop in voter turnout. Voter Fraud itself amounts to something around 0.00002% of the votes cast.
     
    yardmeat, Bowerbird and mdrobster like this.
  25. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The wrong side?
     

Share This Page