High-profile Republicans head for the exits amid House GOP dysfunction

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    CNN —
    House Republicans were shocked by some of the recent high-profile retirements announced by their colleagues, which have included powerful committee chairs and rising stars inside the GOP.

    But given the miserable state of affairs inside the House right now, they also weren’t exactly surprised.

    “They’ve signed up to do serious things. And we’re not doing serious things,” said Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado, a conservative who is retiring after bucking his party on several key issues.

    Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska, a moderate who represents a key swing seat, pointed to his party’s struggle to govern as driving the departures.

    “When you’re divided in your own conference, the joy of the job is harder,” Bacon told CNN. “When you have folks on your own team with their knives out, it makes it less enjoyable.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/19/politics/republicans-retiring-house/index.html

    Less enjoyable? How about a shyteshow. This is just another ancillary affect of Trumpery. Not that we haven't had gridlock before. But the exodus of so many Repubs is a sign of Trumpery's stench becoming pervasive.
     
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    Real conservatives are exiting the GOP as the party turns to fascism. The only ones who will remain in the end, will be true fascists, and unprincipled politicians who only care about getting reelected even if that means sinking the country.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The magnitude of the damage Don has done to the former GOP is just now being fully appreciated.
     
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    Actually the Neocons have looked at their polling numbers vs. the insurgents in their own party and noted that retiring on their own terms pays better than letting the public do it for them.
     
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    I have no sympathy for the GOP's imminent demise. They lost all claim to honor and courage when they allowed themselves to become the puppets of one of the most vile men the country has ever produced.

    Perhaps a good number of those with the cajones to bow out will be replaced by Dems or independents who are not in Trump's thrall and may actually do the work of the people. A girl can dream . . .
     
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  6. Lee Atwater

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    A guide to the 5 GOP factions roiling the House

    Speaker Mike Johnson hasn’t had much success taming the House GOP’s constantly warring factions. The situation has, if anything, gotten worse under his reign.

    Just over three months into his speakership, Johnson’s already caught in the same swamp that eventually drowned Kevin McCarthy. A few firebrands are threatening to force a vote to boot him from the job, conservatives are publicly griping about his decisions and battleground district centrists have indicated they’re fed up with walking the plank on tough votes.

    Add two more troublesome groups to that mix, thanks in part to the Louisiana Republican’s predecessor. McCarthy allies who are still smarting over their friend’s ejection have criticized Johnson’s leadership style. And the three conservatives McCarthy installed on the powerful Rules Committee — part of a bargain the Californian struck to win the gavel last year — have hobbled Johnson’s ability to get bills on the floor.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/19/republican-factions-mike-johnson-00141765

    I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a cuck.
     
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    Please pardon my fatalistic feelings on this but I remain concerned the POT is going to drag the country under with it. Continuing on as we have prior to Trumpery is impossible. We now are saddled with one party being a collection of misinformed, self-interested, followers with misdirected anger who no longer think critically.
     
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    POT? First rule of writing anything: spell out acronyms upon first usage. It's not as if I can Google that without getting pages of information about kitchen utensils.
     
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    For the bomb throwers of the Freedom Causcus and the hardcore Trump branch of the House GOP (some of them overlap), governing is a dirty word, and they will not be happy until they have torn the whole thing down. They literally hate government so much, they'd do anythig to destroy it. Watch what happens when the next debt ceiling deadline comes up. These people will be all too happy to shut down government.
     
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    You have a funny definition of "fascism" while backing a party whose platform and performance could serve as an illustration of Mussolini's definition "“Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”
     
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    But none of them worked with Trump and are leaving because Reps are tired of being stabbed in the back by the people they voted for.
     
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    The ONE thing that defines fascism is a right-wing dictator. That's what Mussolini was. And Trump is the one who has attempted to become that dictator. And has already promised that he'll try again.
     
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    I think there's still quite a ways to go myself when I note that I have former Pershing missle servicemember friends who still consider themselves Rs.
     
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    [/quote]. Mussolini considered himself a socialist. If you look at the quote I posted about it falls directly in line with current Democratic dogma. Ironically you guys accuse Trump of want to be a "dictator" because he aims to cut through the massive bureaucracy you guys created AND curtain their unregulated powers. Remember him cutting thousands of needless regulations and rules? And allowing people to keep more of their earners? What in the list sounds even vaguely fascist?
     
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    EVERYBODY considered themselves a socialist at the time... left right and center. Mussolini was a right wing socialist and a dictator. EXACTLY what Trump aspires to be. For God's sake, he's saying it! And he already TRIED!
     
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    Do some more research. ON Mussolini, particularly. Oh, and how about some research on Trump aspiring to be a dictator. You're running on empty.
     
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    By "none of them" do you mean the Republicans who are voluntarily leaving? Because my comment was about the Republican Party in general, not specifically those moderates who've had enough.
     
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    The moderates of course many of whom have been in DC way to long any way, and have become all but indistinguishable from Democrats. They have been suborned by by the various fabricated industrial complexes that now run our government.
     
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    I have easily used the reference to the Party of Trump over 100 times. My apologies if it confused you.
     
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    Repubs have been on a decades long crusade to fulfill the admonition that government doesn't work. Each time they have the opportunity they try to prove it is so. This session of Congress being a case study in dysfunction of their own making.
     
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    This does not bode well for the country. Both parties are losing moderates and they are being replaced with brainless morons who only know how to perform for social media reels. They have no idea how to govern or run a country, nor do they even care to learn or try because that's not their goal. Their goal is self-promotion and self-enrichment.
     
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    Dems have proven themselves capable of governing when afforded the opportunity to do so. Repubs have no interest in it.
     
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    Your concern? Lol!
    The Trump Party is in the process of doing exactly that. Rick Wilson nailed it in 2018 with his book, ETTD. It a simple but deadly accurate analysis.
     
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    Yeah, no they have not. Most of the current Democrats have no more business in office than most of the current Republicans do.
     

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