Hillary's Nightmare Scenario

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  1. Amadeus

    Amadeus New Member

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    Hillary wanted to run against Trump? Her supporters thought Trump was a gift? Be careful what you wish for.

    Hillary has always had a vulnerability with Bill's affair(s), her reaction to it and to Monica Lewinsky. Hell, she has struggled to explain the situation at the best of times. It's been kept on the down-low for the most part, and both have been given a lot of leeway, because Bill is so popular among political types. However, Trump is going to tear into it like nobody's business. Trump has no filter and no boundaries. The GOP cannot stop him. The media is his bread and butter.

    If they debate on issues, Trump would get steamrolled. Hillary is political machine. But it's not going to be an issue-oriented fight. Trump is an entertainer, a practiced troll, and he has millions of people cheering him on. This is going to get very ugly.
     
  2. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Hillary's husband had an affair in the latter 1990s, and it was publicly dealt with at the time. Might a spouse's sluttish behavour of over 18 years vintage be a paramount issue in a presidential election? With two-thirds of Americans rating the ex-president favourably, it's difficult to see how his illicit indulgences of nearly two decades ago would provide fodder for a gutter snipe that would seriously distract the electorate from a plethora of far more urgent concerns.

    The Church Ladies who deem having a once-wayward head-of-household a disqualifier for the presidency would not have supported her anyway, and are unlikely to promenade to the polls for serial polygamist The Great Flatu.
     
  3. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.

    What is also sure, though, is that the family-values crowd will have no problem looking past Trump's three wives, whereas all hell would break loose if a candidate of the Democrats would have such transgressions on the resume.
     
  4. TomFitz

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    How is it that Hillary is "vulnurable" because of her husband's scandal??????

    Maybe in right wing talk radio land, that might be the case, but they have all been deeply invested in Clintonhate for two and a half decades. And since they reliable amount to less then 1/4 of the US population, the Clinton campaign obviously wrote them off long ago.

    You seem to have forgotten that the GOP's campaign to get Clinton through Monica Lewinsky backfired totally.

    Bill Clinton's poll numbers ROSE during that fight, and the Democrats trounced the GOP in the mid term elections too.

    Trump's attacks on Clinton and other women have been seen for what they are, misogynistic. I particularly like the way Bernie Sanders reacted to Trump's latest bit of boorish vulgarity.

    Trump has the same appeal as a shock jock. And the only way they survive is by continually lowering the bar.

    That might make a guy like Howard Stern rich, but it won't make him president.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hill fears Trump because he is so un PC. She would much rather run against some "nice guy" like Romney or McCain who would not dare bring up her efforts to destroy every woman Bill had sex with or even raped that dared come forward. They would ignore her very poor judgement on a private e mail account for gov business and her 3am call that was so poorly delt with in Benghazi not to mention her pivotal role in destabilizing Libya and the resulting problem of ISIS there and across the region. Trump is her worst nightmare and will destroy her in debate.
     
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    Didnt Hillary attack the integrity of the women her husband slept with? Seems to me her "Im for women" routine will be disemboweled by Trump. Lets hope she keeps going with that route. Its gonna be great seeing her anti woman cookies comment come up during debate.
     
  7. Amadeus

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    Bill is a notorious lech. That's not a figment of right-wing propaganda, that is an established fact even among liberals. It doesn't look good that Bill took advantage of an intern, and that intern was bashed up and down by Hillary. Lets just put that on the table for what it is.

    I agree that Trump won't be president. I'm just saying that this is a nightmare scenario for Hillary.
     
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    i think trump will win against hillary. All the trump campaign has to do is to remind the people how much the banks have hurt them which are hillarys main supporters.
     
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    I'm not a die hard Trump supporter. I do find it comical how some get sooo upset by some of the things he says.

    I won't vote for Hillary. And it has nothing to do with her husband and everything to do with her policies.

    If Trump gets the nomination the debates will be quite interesting to say the least.
     
  10. Professor Peabody

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    You're forgetting about the "Energizer" aren't you?
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I am confident that when Hillary and Trump face off in a televised Debate, she will turn that rooster into a capon.
     
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    You mean lied about publicly.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Granted, it can and most likely will get very ugly over the next several months until election day is over and we (hopefully) have a new President. A lot can happen between now and then, so I'm not putting my money on any candidate.
     
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    Close, but no cigar (Monica pun intended). The threat to Hillary Clinton posed by the ex-president is not the well documented affair with Lewinski. It is the rapes, and sexual assaults on women, that Billy-boy has (allegedly) perpetrated. In many of these cases, Hillary has helped cover them up. This makes her weak on women issues. It stands to reason that the DNC has told candidates to be hands-off on the issue, but rest assured that in the general election cycle it will be a deciding issue. Especially if Donald Trump is the GOP nominee.

    Let me point out, that I am not a fan of Trump, or either of the dynamic-duo Clintons. But this reference contains a list of alleged assaults and infidelities by Bill Clinton:

    http://www.albertpeia.com/oxfordassault.htm

    And this reference, is a list of Donald Trumps issues with rape and harassments:

    http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/now/politics/215671-donald-trump-rape-timeline

    Choose for yourself.
     
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    Hillary Clinton's spouses: 1
    Donald Trump's spouses: 3

    I don't think The Donald wants to raise issues relating to marriage. Besides, Hillary has gotten much sympathy over this issue and, if anything, it would help her -- especially among women.
     
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    Apparently. You can remind me if you are so disposed and feel that it is crucial to the '16 presidential election.
     
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    :omg: Cheating husbands never lie about it, do they?
     
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    Refresh your memory a bit?
     
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    Yeah, in so many words Trump tweeted to Hillary in so many words that if she starts on this war on women thing, it will be no holds barred. Not only will Lewinski be brought up, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones and around ten others will be brought up. I suppose Trump will bring up how Bill and Hillary attempted to silence all of them and perhaps more.

    Bill is still popular and is remember by most of us as the last good president we had, even with all his extra-curricular activities. It was basically good times under Bill. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump would bring up a bunch of other things from Whitewater to the Rose Law Firm to Vince Foster.

    Even so, no one really knows how it would all play out.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    That does it! With a guy trying to peddle a book that makes such sensational claims, I shall never vote for Bill Clinton again!


    Honest.
     
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    The next presidential election will not be about the antediluvian naughty antics of spouses.

    If anyone excavates any historic embarrassment, it would be Hillary's voting to surrender the congressional prerogative to the Bush that resulted in the three-trillion dollar bloody nation-building fiasco that contributed to the destabilization of the Middle East.

    Since Randy Paul will not be the Republican nominee, and Rubio probably will, I seriously doubt that we'll be harkening back to such egregious errors of judgement.
     
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    In case you didn't notice, Bill Clinton is not running for President.

    I find it unlikely that there will be much discussion of Monica Lewinsky or any of the rest of them, not unless the Trump campaign wants to talk about the Donald's divorces.
     
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    Hillary is a non-starter with me. FOr Trump to get my vote, well let's just say that miracles sometimes happen but you shouldn't bet on them.
     
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    Its called opposition research here. You can beat both teams, Hillary's and Trump's are digging very deep into the past to come up with anything and everything that can be smeared across the airways. Very few voters here actually vote for the best qualified candidate, the negative attack ads work and what happens is that those who are not loyal mind numbed robots of the political parties will vote for the one they dislike the least or perhaps the one who had the least mud stick.

    That is the good old American political election way. Ideas, solutions, visions of the future have little to do with choosing whom one will vote for.
     
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    The opposition research will be done by Republicans to reveal more Trump dirt (as if his own continual offensive outbursts were not sufficient.) As a political ingenue who has been given a free ride by his own entertainment media, the Party's "normals" are hellbent on bringing him down.

    Of course, Clinton is a well-known commodity, and they'll just rehash the same old material.

     

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