Hiroshima’s fate, 70 years ago this week, must not be forgotten

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    The Gulag was softer as Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib .... You must life in a total other, unreal world with your general US hate what kills any logical connections out of your brain. Otherwise it is un-explainable how you are able to write such an utterly BS!
    Gulags were like Nazi Concentration Camps with one difference: No gas chambers and maybe a spark more food!
     
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    Face it FDR wanted war
    By the way I have been to Hiroshima and its quite a beautiful city and I love the Japanese people I met there. I spent a year in Japan while serving in the Marines
     
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    Sure ... FDR wanted war and I will personally not deny this, BUT: With whom he wants war? Germany and not Japan!

    Only some logical thinking Penrod:
    US made much pressure on Japan, due to their aggressive conquering in China and occupation of French Indochina aka Vietnam. So this all gave Japan only to options: a) to give policy up and go into serious negotiations with the USA to end embargo or b) to attack the USA to get free hand to take over in Asia what is necessary. We all know that Japan chose b)!

    So out of this the truther trolls and others declare now that embargo etc. was done, because FDR wanted to provoke Japan for attack to have the wanted war! Really? FDR and Churchill were close friends and FDR saw the danger with Nazi Germany and Hitler and we all know that he did everything to back Britain in fight against Hitler, often close to be illegal by US law. Also he helped not only Britain with the land lease, but USSR too after Germany attacked Stalin.
    So un-deniable was Hitler the target for FDR to get into war, why shall he make pressure on the other side of globe against Japan to be attacked by them? The often given answer about that Japan was allied with Germany is nonsense. Japan and USSR had silent agreement not to attack each other after Kwantung Army got defeat by Red Army. And so Japan didn't enter war when Germany attacked USSR. What makes FDR so sure that if Japan attacks him, he will get the wanted war with Germany? Nothing!
    Of course it happens, but that it happens made everyone stunning, because no one even in close Nazi regime around Hitler thought that Hitler will declare war to the USA. Even weeks before he gave strict order in U-Boot war in Atlantic not to attack US ships if clear that they are US. Here he feared an entry of USA into war, because the situation between German U-Boot fleet and US Navy boiled up dangerous with a de facto undeclared war existing.
    It is until today an unsolved secret what made Hitler to do such a utterly deep change in mind to declare then war to USA!
     
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    Baloney
    http://How U.S. Economic Warfare Provoked Japan’s Attack on Pearl Harbor

     
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    You cant force them to attack you but you can not deny he did provoke them and wanted war. Getting Japan to declare war on us led to Germany to declare war on us. Just what he wanted.
     
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    Thank you all for your contributions, but this thread has run way past it's post limit. Feel free to restart it
     
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