Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    No it isnt
    Yes it is
    Feel free to correct your false characterization.
     
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    Cool, glad we agree that past Koko was wrong. Feel free to get things wrong about the swimming pool or Zyklon B again. Did you ever finally figure out if you were agnostic on this or not?
     
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    Take 2 aspirin for the pain and get a good nights sleep!
     
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    Full text of "The Jewish Run Concentration Camps In The Soviet Union"

    https://archive.org/stream/TheJewishRunConcentrationCampsInTheSovietUnion/The Jewish-Run Concentration Camps in the Soviet Union_djvu.txt

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    It looks you didn’t understand my irony – probably because of my poor English, so let me explain it more clear: if I have to chose to whom to believe – to thousands of prisoners or to a few relatives/friends of accused – I will believe to thousands of prisoners.

    Quite possible that there was a swimming pool for the camp staff and quite possible that sometimes as a big favor they allowed to some prisoners use the swimming pool – the same as in Russian gulag camps – I read that Russian guard made special good conditions to women prisoner they liked. And if the commandant of the gulag camp loved music – they also had concerts in gulags – the same as in German concentrations camp.

    Not every German concentration camp was a death camp – some Jews who were not capable for hard work were killed, but those who were capable to work were forced to work. And if the camp commandant was a cultured man and thought music can increase workers productivity, the camp had orchestra. And yes, if orchestra could convince people that they are not going to die – it is LOGICAL even the death camps could have orchestras.

    So I don’t see any problem with orchestras’ and swimming pools even in a death camps.

    But the primary question is why so many Jews, men, women and children, without any court order were sent these camps?


    And here – this Nazi lied?

     
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    so they ran out of bullets but had plenty of left over gas then?

    perfectly logical!

    Why use a simple bullet when they can complicate the hell out of things with gas?

    :fart:

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    Which do you think that Nazis used as weapons during the war on the actual battlefield: bullets or Zyklon B? I fear you don't know the answer to this question, so let me help you out. They didn't use Zyklon B on the battlefield. There was a reason to conserve bullets for the battlefield.
     
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    There was a bigger reason to conserve gas since the had to buy it from the US
    Why use a simple bullet when they can complicate the hell out of things with gas?

    :fart:
     
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    Zyklon B was pretty efficient at killing humans. Bullets are something militaries tend to want to conserve. Zyklon B was manufactured in Germany . . . not the ****ing US. Why do you think it was called Zyklon?
     
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    wow you know nothing about modern warfare
     
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    yes your English must be pretty poor. These are released DEATH CAMP prisoners from Auschwitz, Belson, Majenak, not their relatives.

    It's in all the aerial reconnaissance photos I would say that's quite possible that there was a swimming pool. Favors for what? Sex? LoL
    The Germans weren't allowed to fraternize with the Jewish women sorry nice try, neither were they allowed to rape anyone like the Russians did and the Americans and the British
    You're talking about a Russian camp those are Jewish run camps.
    Full text of "The Jewish Run Concentration Camps In The Soviet Union"

    https://archive.org/stream/TheJewishRunConcentrationCampsInTheSovietUnion/The Jewish-Run Concentration Camps in the Soviet Union_djvu.txt
    Not even a legitimate comparison.
    There's no camp that was a death camp that's a Jewish drama exaggerated euphemism
    No they weren't they were put in ghettos it says so right in the German paperwork where do you come up with this stuff
    No they weren't, Hitler paid them a wage for Christ's sake
    More total BS, they put on shows for the kids that supposedly were gas the second they got off the chain only to find out that there were thousands of them alive fat and well when they were liberated
    There was no greeting orchestra
    No in fact it's not logical at all doesn't make any sense why would anybody spend one red cent on a Jew that you're just going to gas the moment they get off the train anyway , that is according to the Jews
    I don't see any problem with it either what I see is the problem with is all these groundless conjectures you are making
    because Hitler wanted all of them out of the country. Not to mention America did the same thing with the Japanese how does that justify us to do the same thing and we're the good guys.
     
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    I know that Zyklon B was not used by the Nazis as a war weapon and that there were concerns about ammo shortages on the field. This ain't rocket surgery. Oh, and I know you were wrong about Zyklon B being made in the US instead of Germany.
     
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    So english is your 5th language?
    I never said such a thing.
    Yeh thats why Hitler didnt allow the Maschinengewehr 42, machine gun

    He ordered a one shot one kill policy!

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    I'm sorry you think militaries don't care about ammo supplies. They do. Meanwhile, they don't use Zyklon B on the battlefield and Zyklon B was not manufactured in the US.
     
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    Still having difficulty understanding the english language I see.
     
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    Yes. It wasn't practical for use on the field as a weapon, unlike in chambers.
     
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    Thank you for your thoughtful response.
    If I understood you correctly, you are questioning the importance of numbers in measuring the magnitude of a tragedy like the Holocaust.

    I believe it was Stalin who said: “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”

    As far as the Holocaust goes, there is absolutely no factual foundation to the claim that "6 million Jews" were killed in the Holocaust. It's just a number that Simon Wiesenthal simply pulled out of the air when supplementing the figure with 5 million "others".

    There is absolutely no factual basis for either grossly inflated figure but the motive for exaggerating the "6 million Jews" claim was to enable the corrupt Holocaust Industry to extort $ Billions in "false restitution claims"(1) and "...long running scams"(2)

    As far as the persecution of the Jews, there is no evidence anywhere that Hitler ordered a genocide(3). It is also an inconvenient fact that about 150,000 Jews served in Germany's WW 2 military and were also high ranking officers in the Nazi Party.Do you think that if Hitler hated all Jews he would have made 25 of them Generals in charge of thousands of men?(4)
    If Hitler really hated Jews would he have had so many Jewish friends(5) a Jewish doctor, Jewish "Pen Pal who shared his birthday (photo below)


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    Hitler with young, Jewish "Pen Pal" Rosa Nienau

    None of this changes the fact that Jews and other inmates suffered dismal conditions especially at the end of the war but it dispels the myth that Hitler was some rabid Jew hater as is suggested by the OP..

    Thanks,





    (1) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (2) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED

    (3). “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190


    (4). "Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis"

    ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/his...-of-jewish-descent-to-fight-for-nazis-1.58495


    (5). “5 Jews Hitler Actually Liked”
    https://historyofyesterday.com/5-jews-hitler-actually-liked-c702217e1aa5

    EXCERPT “Surprisingly, during this time in his life, Hitler also had extremely good relationships with Jewish people. At his house in Vienna, almost all of his friends were Jewish, with Josef Neumann being the closest.

    And when Hitler took over Germany, he spared some of his old Jewish friends, kept some in his party, and even formed new friendships.” CONTINUED
     
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    Still having difficulty with simple facts I see.
     
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    yeh the brits tried it on the germans and found out it did not work well, its the only thing the germans had to kill the lice that infected Jews brought into the camps. thats why made all the jews get hair cuts and a shower
     
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    Nope, I agree there is no business like Shoah business!



    They call these camps DEATH camps even though they sold beer to the Jewish prisoners!
     
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    Were the Jewish ppl in Germany trying to destroy Germany?
     
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    No one said every camp was a death camp and no one in your videos denies the death camps. There's no intellectual dishonesty like denialist dishonesty. Funny how you like appealing to some prisoner testimony when you falsely think it proves your point but you deny the testimony of other prisoners and guards. Hm. Wonder why?
     
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    Only Nazi idiots thought that. No historically literate person thinks that.
     
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    from post #738

    from post #746

    from post #748
    Then why did you say what you said in post #738? Show us your source.
     
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