Hitler's Jew-hatred & Holocaust Denial

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  1. Ronstar

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    Yes one has to be either deranged or in complete denial to make believe Hitler did not hate the Jews. All Jews.

    Hitler and the Nazis and their fascists allies also killed millions of Jews, and of course some folks still deny that to this day.
     
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    You keep saying that

    However I have heard a number of holocaust deniers say all sorts of things on the internet or in speeches and that is never as detail that I have heard,

    I am sure you can find and example or two of some deniers making the claim that he only hated communist jews but it is not as you claim a COMMON talking point or argument from the deniers.

    They make all sorts of stupid claims but generally not that one
     
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    In spite of the fact that the vast majority of the world rejects the standard Holocaust narrative, (1) there are very few people who can honestly be called "Holocaust deniers"; i.e. people who deny that anything happened to Europe's Jews during the WW 2 era.

    According to an ADL study, the vast majority of the world recognizes the impossibility of most claims made by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry - Lobby (2), (3).

    Please remember, these are the same people who tried to deceive the world with fake human skin lampshades, phony shrunken heads, fake human skin pocketbooks and even a "vaporizer"(4) to explain the missing human remains.

    Apparently, most people do not believe that 6 million Jews were murdered in homicidal gas, electric(5) and steam chambers etc or similar grisly and unsupportable fables.

    What was encouraging about this study is that younger people seem to be using their critical thinking skills in knowing that: "facts about the Holocaust have been distorted"(1)
    Apparently, they, too realize that the Allies employed atrocity propaganda(5) and that's what most of the holocaust narrative is

    After all, if there were any truth to the standard holocaust narrative it wouldn't need draconian censorship laws in about 16 "democracies" to protect it from open discussion and honest examination.

    The truth welcomes that same open discussion and honest examination but a lie can only survive in the darkness of repressive and totalitarian censorship laws.

    Thanks,



    (1). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (3)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (4). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


    (4). "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


    (5). “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

    15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.
     
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    That is not a fact it is a manufactured false claim

    Mosty of the world knows the narratrive is absolutely true

    you are not emloying critical thinking skills you are cherry picking revisionist history
    None of your links provide asny form of evidence they only repeat your claims
     
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    Germar Rudolf is a famous German HC denier.
    He once tried to refute the Holocaust analyzing traces of HCN on the walls of a gas chamber. :(

    https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/holocaust-denial/germar-rudolf/
     
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    I only posted them 11 minutes ago. Have you watched them? Go into some detail and tell us why they're fiction.
     
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    Yes. He did check the walls of an alleged gas chamber.
    Watch this from the 39:10 time mark to the 42:30 time mark.

    One Third of the Holocaust - 3 of 5
     
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    Are you accusing the ADL of fraud too along with the Holocaust Industry - Lobby that helped fabricate false Holocaust stories to cheat the German government?

    The source, "The Smithsonian", is in no way a "revisionist" organization, you just don't want to admit that you have been deceived by MSM and the fraudulent Holocaust Industry.

    The reason my sources support my assertions is because I'm telling the truth.
    It's that simple.

    Thanks,
     
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    (from post #83)

    (from post #180)
    Here's some more info on the issue.

    Germar Rudolf: The Chemistry of Auschwitz—Buna Rubber, Zyklon B, Prussian Blue and the Gas Chambers
    https://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1014
    https://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/ChemistryOfAuschwitz-5th-hb27-est.mp4


    Tell us what you think.
     
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    What "the world " thinks is irrelevant at this point since most ppl make that stat up using manufactured polls and other bias MSM propaganda. What matters is here and now and as far as this topic goes, most ppl believe that the Holocaust narrative has been falsified and that the 6 million figure is actually bogus.

    It's not a a stretch, in fact it's far from it. Ask any neutral observer here (like myself) and they'll tell you that's it's merely white propaganda in order to take over the holy land.

    Ignore the ppl who have a vested interest (they're only seeking self confirmation) and look to the neutral arbiters like myself, for guidance if honesty is what you seek.
     
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    Do not and I repeat do not consult the ADL. this is a fringe group that seeks to establish a White Jewish European hegemony over the nation of Israel. It's a proven white supremacist organisation that was founded exclusively to enact an anti black discourse upon society.

    The ADL main priority is the destruction of the black race by any means. Any other agenda they profess is a smokescreen so let it be known, this khazarian mafia (Ukrainian) has no other purposes other than white supremacy. You can read their memorandum online under the leadership of andriy biletski, the Ukrainian leader of the Ukraine military.
     
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    Nah, they are leftists.
     
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    That hasn't been the case in the forums or in my personal experience. Much the opposite.
     
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    Blaming Jews en masse for communism is quite common in parts of Eastern Europe. I've often heard the claim, from those who deny that 400,000 Jews had been murdered in Romania during WWII, that the Jews were in fact persecuted for being communists.

    Funny thing is, some in the "Jews brought communism" crowd are also accusing Jews of being greedy capitalist bankers. Go figure.
     
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    Most people think of Auschwitz & gas chambers when they hear the term "Holocaust".
    But in fact most of the Jews (at least 3 million) were murdered with firearms.

     
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    I, too, do not regard the ADL as a constructive entity.

    The study I cited was not done by the ADL, itself, but by a professional polling organization called First International Resources ( http://first-intl.com/ )
    Additionally, it's findings are consistent with similar studies so I see no problem with the organization that did the actual work and produced its findings, First International Resources.

    "The Atlantic" magazine which featured the study is a well established and respected source and far from a hotbed of anti Semitism.
    Please read the article and let me know what you think
     
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    I don't know of anyone who blames the Jews en masse for Communism but it is an undeniable fact that the early Communist Party was under Jewish leadership through some of its most brutal excesses.

    It is unlikely that Putin and Alexander Solzhenitsyn agreed on much except that the early Communist Party was Jewish led:

    - "When Alexander Solzhenitsyn began work on a book called 200 Years Together, he was criticized for what touching this taboo issue. His own comments to the press didn’t help the matter, claiming two-thirds of the Cheka (secret police) in Ukraine were Jewish."(1)


    “Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish”
    https://www.jpost.com/jewish-world/...st-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish-317150

    EXCERPT “Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the members of the first Soviet government were Jewish.” CONTINUED

    A third source in a book about the influential but little known Lazar M. Kaganovich(2), we learn that:

    EXCERPT “That Trotsky, unquestionably the most outstanding man among the
    Bolsheviks, was a Jew did not seem an insuperable obstacle in a party” in which the percentage of Jews, 52 percent, was rather high compared to the percentage of Jews (1.8 percent) in the total population.” CONTINUED (2)

    So, it is not an "anti Semitic trope" that the majority of the cruel and brutal Communist regime in Russia was Jewish led, it's an inconvenient fact.

    Hitler, like the rest of Europe's political figures, was repulsed by the cruelty and bloodshed of the early [FONT=Khula, sans-serif]Communist regime and feared that it would completely spread to Germany. Then, it was primarily because so many Communist leaders were Jewish that Hitler feared Communism's Jewish leadership would do the same thing to Germany that they did to Russia's starving masses.

    As I have written and supported earlier, Hitler had many Jewish friends, fellow artists and business associates so I do not believe that he hated all Jews simply because they were Jewish.
    Rather, he hated what Communism's Jewish leadership had done to Russia and were in the process of doing to Germany.

    Thanks,
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    (1). "Was the Russian Revolution Jewish?"
    https://www.jpost.com/magazine/was-the-russian-revolution-jewish-514323



    (2). Full text of "The Wolf Of The Kremlin biography of Kaganovich"
    https://archive.org/stream/TheWolfOfTheKremlin/The+Wolf+of+the+Kremlin_djvu.txt
     
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    Nobody denies that there were Jews among communists. There were also Hungarians among communists, but oddly enough, nobody's talking about them. Only Jews receive the dubious honor of being the subject of endless conspiracy theories and hasty generalizations.
     
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    There is no denying the Hitler was one of the worst monsters in history and that he killed six million Jewish people. The only quibble I have is that the total number was actually nine million. Hitler also killed Gypsies, the mentally ill and challenged, homosexuals, and most anyone who opposed him politically. If you do a Google search, some claim the number is much higher.

    Anyone who denies the Hollocaust occurred places their credibility under serious question when they make claims about other issues.

    As for the claim that the Bolshevik Revolution was “Jewish,” that was not true. While a good number of Russian communists were Jewish their numbers included many gentiles too. After they established power the Soviets were not above punishing Jewish people as well as anyone else who was or appeared to be in their way.

    When you look at the numbers killed, Hitler, Stalin and Mao shared a lot in common. They were all genocidal monsters. No one should ever look up to any of them.
     
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    In all, the Nazis murdered about 13 million innocent people, including communists, pacifists, democrats, Jehovah's Witnesses, trade unionists, etc. :(
     
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    Why Washington? China's Mao Zedong created much larger piles of corpses.
    But nothing, however, exceeds the holocaust in disgust. :(

    It's not how many people had to die that makes a crime heinous. It is the motive and the hatred of the perpetrators.
     
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    Hitler was called The German George by UKs Prime minister, after George Washington.
     
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