Homosexuality absent religion?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by ARDY, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Again the precedent has been set by the civil rights act. It includes accomadation laws. Either all accomadation laws are legitimate or none of them are.
     
  2. Maxwell

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    Sexual preferences do not make you a minority protected by civil rights. That's another item to be dismissed.

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    Sexual preferences do not make anyone a protected minority class with civil rights. Same laws for everyone, regardless of your sexual habits.
     
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    You being the thumper should know. Perhaps you can quote scripture saying Jesus says its ok to divorce from an abusive situation.
    I have never seen it. I have seen exactly what a couple can divorce over, and abuse isn't one of them.
    If one were to get divorced because of abuse, they are to remain celebate after said marriage is over. My grandmother did. For well over 40 yrs.
    If we are not living under the law, then what's all the BS your spouting with this thread?
    Somehow, I don't think you understand the bible at all.

    I don't think the USSC will bring up gay marriage in any future. Or they'll still remain as is, just like Roe v wade.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    That is how some christians who try to be self righteous are. Lying is a sin, but they do so anyway.
     
  5. Polydectes

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    I didn't mention preference or habit. I mentioned orientation. I further don't think there should be any class outside of citizens and non citizens.

    If you are against accomadation laws I'm in agreement with you. But if you support some accommodation laws for certain special groups and none for other groups I'm going to have to reject that as engineered inequality.
     
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    Okay, so according to you a person in sn abusive relationship should stay in it. Well, we're going to disagree 8n that one. Yes, I know my bible.

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    Sexual orientation isn't a civil right.
     
  7. Polydectes

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    Well I'd agree but you seem to think it is.
     
  8. dairyair

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    No. Do you read what is written? I even stated my grandma left an abusive marriage.
    So, you are OK with adultery if done under conditions that suit you. Let me guess, you are in at least marriage #2 and fit the category of biblical adulterer. And you're here whining about other sins.

    And no, you don't know your bible if you don't know the rules the bible gives for divorce and then allowed to remarry.
    Anyone can divorce for any reason, but will be an adulterer if they have another relationship if the divorce wasn't for the 2 specific reasons I've already stated from the bible.
     
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    Same laws for all yet, in your perfect world, we cannot sign a legal document - adopt - expect to be served if we enter a place open to the public - serve in the military - share our partners insurance or property - visit our partner in the hospital...

    That's equal treatment right there..

    Do you even hear yourself?
     
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    You're going off the rails.
     
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    People have had homosexual relationships throughout history. I'm not buying your victimology.
     
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    Yep, they have also been killed throughout history.
    What's your point?

    Feel free to address anything I have said if you have the balls. You seem to skip around and respond only to what you feel enhances your position. That's why your ilk will never retake your ideal fantasy of theocracy. That time has passed.
     
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    My testicles aren't the topic. People have been killed throughout history. Okay, we agree on that. Anything else?
     
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    Nope. Merely pointing out how those against gays are hypocritical. Especially those who are considered adulterers per the biblical reasons for divorce.
    Also, how those businesses you complain about, were also being hypocrites.

    As a bible thumper, what does the bible say about hypocrites?
    They certainly aren't christian, nor will they receive any eternal life in the happy place.
     
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    Standing up for our constitutional rights doesn't mean we're against homosexuals. It means we're not going to submit.
     
  16. Polydectes

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    Submit to what?
     
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    You're not standing up for constitutional rights. You want to use the constitution to allow discrimination and law breaking due to religion. Much like Islamic law would like to do.
    But, the constitution won't allow for not treating everyone equal, that hasn't broken the law or constitution.

    Why do you keep ignoring my question, is it ok to kill gays if one's religion says it's ok. I know why you won't. Just like you can't discriminate because a religion might say you can. And the christian religion, specifically Jesus, wouldn't discriminate. That is only someone's personal opinion.

    Nor did you answer what Jesus thinks about hypocrites.
     
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    The homosexual mafia.

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    Religious freedom is a constitutional right. Too bad. You're confused. Christians aren't killing homosexuals. That would be muslims. I suggest you focus your energy on them.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    Are you talking about the people who "shut Doreen businesses" because they hold a certain belief about homosexuality?
     
  20. dairyair

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    I haven't heard 1 muslim kill any gay in the USA.
    But you want to put them back into the closet, so you will allow them to live, but you want them hidden from the world. Some life.
    Being an American citizen is also a constitutional right. Your religious BS doesn't trump another's constitutional right. You personally can feel however you want, but when one puts an illegal action into place, that is where the line is drawn.
    You can have your freedom, but so can everyone else. Something that seems to escape your brain.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    Haven't heard of Omar Mateen? I believe he killed 49 people at a gay club, he was muslim in the USA.
     
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    Yes, the homosexuals that target Christian businesses to test discrimination laws and work with their allies in Government to bully Christian business owners to submit,

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    I'm sure you haven't heard a lot of things. Have you heard about honor killings in the USA?
     
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    Sorry but this crap makes my blood boil. I don't care if the 49 victims in that club had sex with animals. That choice is between them and God. 49 innocent lives were taken by a Muslim because he felt that he had the right to do that. Americans need to stop identifying groups by their sex lives. That is what liberals do. 49 people were executed and it was a Jihadi who did it. We must wage war on Jihadis and eradicate them from this planet. American citizens need to embrace the 2A and be prepared to take action if they encounter a Jihadi plying their craft.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    I would call that progressive/regressive media and bias. Alone even if homosexuals were 100% united which they aren't, they wouldn't have the power to pull that off. I'm thinking this is more of a far left progressive movement that simply uses the homosexuals as a pawn.

    I don't for a second doubt a contorted effort to discredit christianity in the hearts and minds of people.
     
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    Dairyair said he had not heard of a muslim killing a gay in the USA. I was simply pointing out that one has and it made global news.
     

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