Hours Before Trump's Press Conference CNN And BuzzFeed Hit 'Fake News' Bottom

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    That is not a nice thing to say about your soon to be president.
     
  2. TomFitz

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    You never heard of 4Chan before this morning.

    Now you're embracing and anonymous post on a site you never heard of as fact, and dismissing intelligence reports from two countries as "fake news".

    Sorry, but the full report will be presented to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Friday.

    That's about as long as your spin line has to live.

    Links between Russian banks and Russian oligarchs are legion, have been reported on extensively (although studiously ignored by the rigth wing media fake news bubble).

    None of the Russian ties to Trump are made up. Of course, that's a claim that you made up and can't substantiate in any way.
     
  3. GreenBayMatters

    GreenBayMatters Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever Tom. And everyone who differs with you is alt right, Yawn
     
  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please! :roll:

    Is it "not nice" to call the two term president the USA as an "illegal alien from Kenya with a false birth certificate" like YOUR "soon to be president".?

    And a thousand other utter lying racist slurs to our current president.

    Utter FAIL from the Right!
     
  5. Zorro

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    You're entitled to your opinion but I believe that this news conference gave DJT the platform to prove that he is few notches above few journalists and news outlets in the USA when it comes to moral high ground. That tells a lot about the state of the U.S media and journalism.

    All I can say job well done DJT. Keep up good work.
     
  7. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    That flies in the face of your "suspicion"

    And there's the two faced double talk you are infamous for.

    What's laughable is you pretending business dealings equates to more suspicion about completely different facts that have nothing to do with the business. That is how absurd your position is. Of course you edited out my example because you couldn't handle the irony.

    Ah now I understand why you all of a sudden became very brave. Its been deleted along with the thread.

    No matter [MENTION=68073]Thirty6BelowZero[/MENTION] was in that thread and he remembers you making that ridiculous claim about that congress only working 4 months. You can't erase everything my friend :)
     
  8. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really. Just because one thing isn't true doesn't mean it's all untrue.

    lol for someone who has only been here 5 months, you seem awfully familiar with me. Alt account perhaps?

    any editing issues were due to my phones limitations. Apologies for not keeping it all together.

    And honestly, if you have no desire to make sure that the guy leading you isn't doing things at the behest of another world leader, then all the power to you. Others would rather that the POTUS be a world leader, rather then a puppet. But hey, your call.

    Was it? Sad. I'd wish it stood for all to see.

    Nor would I ever wish anything I've said erased. I stand by my positions here, and those who have sparred with me can attest to that.

    And if he (or others) had wished to chime in to your defense, i'm sure they would have done so in the thread. Perhaps they will here?
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no full report on this latest nonsense. The story has been around almost a year and couldn't be verified.

    And yes, I heard of 4 chan a long, long time ago sorry. What I hadnt heard of until you guys started popping off about it was this "alt right" business.

    Nothing here but fake news. So bad in fact that even outlets that don't care for Trump passed on it. CNN alone decided to run with it, and that's why Trump called them out as fake news.
    You'll be wearing the sunny-side up facemask once again soon Tom, but you're no stranger to that.

    :sunnysideup:
     
  10. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It goes towards ones creditability
    if you have a list of accusations and some of them you find totally false and the others you cant prove one way or the other the false ones you found rightfully cast doubt on the others
    you are even allowed to do that in legal cases if a witness is caught lying the attorney is allowed to tell they jury the can draw the conclusion the rest of what the witness sad is also lies. you can have whole testimonies stricken for being caught lying
     
  11. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True. I prefer solid evidence, but IMO if I see a plum of smoke, I'm probably going to go "hrm, there might be a fire. I should go check that out"
     
  12. HereWeGoAgain

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    OMG, Anderson Cooper keeps going round and round with Kellyanne Conway. She keeps trying to say the story CNN ran is false. That story was that Intelligence chiefs presented claims circulating to Trump; that Trump was advised about the evidence circulating in the intel community. CNN never disclosed what those claims were, like buzzfeed did, they only claimed Trump had been advised. She keeps trying to make it about the Buzzfeed story, but CNN had nothing to do with that.

    But when asked if Trump was advised, as CNN actually reported, Trump and Conway say they can't discuss intelligence briefings! Jeeez!!!!
     
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    To deny there is a problem with the way our media reports news, specifically CNN and their extremely biased method of reporting/skewing facts, not verifying or fact checking, etc, is to deny reality.

    But you are being part of the problem. I am sure you are intelligent enough to know I speak the truth but yet your agenda of defending everything liberal clouds your judgement. If more people cared about right/wrong correct/incorrect truth/untrue we would not have this problem.
     
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    CNN lied about Trump being presented with those memos and the reason way

    CNN makes this claim from their head line

    Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

    but the truth is this

    Donald Trump Wasn’t Told About Unverified Russia Dossier, Official Says


    "Intel and law enforcement officials agree that none of the investigations have found any conclusive or direct link between Trump and the Russian government period," the senior official said.
    According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

    Just in CNNs headline alone they lied twice one that Trump was presented the memos and two it wasn't because the Intel officials was warning Trump he has been compromised by Russia. the Intel officials brought but not presented the two-page summary it was to give Trump an example of unvetted "disinformation."

    CNN tried to create a false narrative that Trump has been compromised giving doubt that Trump should be president
     
  15. HereWeGoAgain

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    True. But they didn't list any specifics. Buzzfeed did that. They only said he was briefed as a two-page printed [not verbal] addendum.

    CNN has multiple sources and are standing by their story. NBC has one source. You are randomly cherry picking what you want to be true.

    Trump wouldn't deny that he was briefed and said he can't talk about intelligence briefings.
     
  16. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Heah I is! I did chime in, actually I did the math for my time at work by the logic used in that thread and I believe I'd been at my job for 18 months instead of 9 years...
     
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    :laugh: Perhaps.

    By now Tom I'm sure you've read the dossier. Can you, with a straight face, tell me it's not parody or some Monty Python skit?

    Seriously.


    Cheers
     
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    They thought that they were getting jobs in the Hillary administration...she had them all killed.
     
  19. Stuart Wolfe

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    Well, I've heard of 4Chan before all this. Heck, my son knows all about it, I think I learned most of what I know of it from him. Not like it hasn't been in the news before anyway.

    And heck, it's not as if this wasn't the first time the world has been trolled by 4Chan. Feminists themselves have been played for fools by it. Remember Freebleeding?
     
  20. TomFitz

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    The facts are what they are.

    Trump did give ethics the finger and said he was going right on running the family business out of the White House.

    He did rant and rave and threaten the media.

    He did big foot his own party leadership.

    And he did strut, bellow and bluster.

    So, I hope you guys learn to yawn. Because that's all your hero's got.
     
  21. TomFitz

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    Based on what? Trump denied, but did not refute.

    This is only the latest. He begrudgingly admitted that the Russians were responible for the hacking.

    The evidence of Trump dealings with Russian oligarchs and gangsters are all over legal documents in several countries. Some of these deals went spectacularly bad too.

    But, bluster and strut is about as moral as he'll ever get.
     
  22. AmericanNationalist

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    If a proposal was tabled to do so, he could. But the GOP is ineffective as a party(that hasn't changed, and no one disputed it), furthermore, Trump has no links with the GOP. The biggest difference between a business and government, is that as a business owner you hire your workers and you effectively control the means of production.

    But unless the party leadership is lock and step with you(and it rarely is, even for Obama.), they're going to do their own thing. Which IMO is a part of today's government instability. Trump does indeed have a lot to learn, that I confess he may never want to learn.
     
  23. TRFjr

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    so who should I believe? should I believe the network that not once but twice gave the Clinton camp debate questions or NBC?
     
  24. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Goebbels would be proud keep repeating a lie over and over again tell it becomes your truth

    Intel and law enforcement officials agree that none of the investigations have found any conclusive or direct link between Trump and the Russian government period," the senior official said.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

    just stop spreading your lies will ya
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    Care to revise and extend?
     

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