House bans DEA from attacking medical marijuana facilities

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  1. South Pole Resident

    South Pole Resident New Member

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    This is the House bans DEA from attacking medical marijuana facilities of the end of prohibition



    Link http://rt.com/usa/162620-congress-dea-medical-marijuana/
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - lissen to what Pope Frankie tellin' ya - he's the Pope - he wouldn't lie to ya...
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    Weed and Wheels Do not Mix
    June 20, 2014 — The acrimonious debate between the forces of marijuana legalization and those opposed to it spills over even to the area of driving safety. Legalization proponents say pot and driving are fine. Opponents say it is dangerous.
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    Pope Francis Speaks Out Against Marijuana
    June 20, 2014 — Pope Francis told members of an anti-drug conference he condemned legalization of recreational drugs. This is all the more important, given the pontiff's status as an international pop culture icon.
     
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    The Pope seems to think all you need to do is make it illegal, and nobody will use it.
     
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    Just legalize it already. Save a ton of money, make money from taxes, don't ruin people's lives by throwing them in jail for smoking a damn plant for god's sake.
     
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    I'm still looking for a good answer to two very important question. One, why can they ban weed (and many other drugs) by just voting to do so, but banning alcohol required a constitutional amendment? Two, what right does the government have to tell people what they can and can't put in their own bodies? Do we not own ourselves, or does the state?
     
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    They ban it using what they always use, the interstate commerce clause. In 1919 the commerce clause doesn't have the power it as today, so they pretty much had to use an Amendment for alcohol.
     
  7. Flintc

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    No problem.

    1) Banning alcohol does not require a constitutional amendment. The US is littered with dry counties, and counties vote themselves wet or dry all the time. Presumably it could have been made a matter of federal enforcement with an act of Congress. The amendment was overkill.

    2) There is a compelling state interest in prohibiting drugs, indeed there are several. One interest is reducing crime (with drugs illegal, people won't commit robberies or burglaries to get the money to buy drugs, see?) Another is public safety - drug users can be violent, and can be dangerous drivers. It could reasonably be said that the war on drugs is the primary cause of all the evils the war on drugs exists to prevent!
     
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    I disagree.

    1. I don't understand your position about people not committing crimes to get illegal drug money.
    2. The 'war on drugs' is far more destructive than legal marijuana ever would be.

    You seem to be of the opinion that banning something makes it cease to exist.
     
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    I had hoped the sarcasm would be clear when I said the war on drugs was the primary cause of the evils the war on drugs exists to prevent. People commit crimes to get drug money because drugs are so expensive. Drugs are expensive because they are illegal. They are illegal to prevent crimes!

    Absolutely. If some diabological genius mastermind wanted to do the worst possible thing to American society and the American economy, he'd have started the war on drugs.

    No, that's the Pope's position. MY position is that the Pope is either an idiot, or he's an economic dunce, or he's completely out of touch.
     
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    Congress should have disbanded the DEA as well. Hell, send the stormtroopers at ATF pink slips too.
     
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    Good argument for the use of medical marijuana...
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    Epileptic girl overcomes Mexico cannabis ban
    9 Sept.`15 - An eight-year-old girl who endures 400 daily epileptic seizures will become Mexico's first authorized consumer of medical cannabis after the government granted her Tuesday an exemption to its marijuana ban.
     
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    Drug test Congress and the president.
     
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    Good deal. It was incredibly stupid for the Feds to be threatening operations in States where the State Legislature has allowed them.
     
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    good, hopefully Congress can get a bill to Obama's desk to sign to pass this into law

    I think this is one thing both sides can agree on

    time to end this war on drugs, this bill does not go far enough, but is a start, they should of legalized marijuana period, time to end prohibition

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    if it has a medical use, it HAS to be removed the scheduled one substance, this passing into law proves it has a medical use

    http://www.dea.gov/druginfo/ds.shtml

    "Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are: "

    congress has this power, why are they not doing it? why play these stupid games, do what is right.....

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    absolutely, theyve obviously lost their freakn minds.

    Parental Substance Abuse A Major Factor
    In Child Abuse And Neglect


    Parental substance abuse is a major factor contributing to child abuse and neglect. This connection is the subject of a new booklet by the Child Welfare League of America (CWLA).

    Among the booklet's findings are the following:

    More than 8 million children live with parents who are substance abusers.

    Substance abuse exists in 40 to 80 percent of families in which the children are victims of abuse.

    Children whose substance-abusing parents do not receive appropriate treatment are more likely to remain in foster care longer and to reenter foster care once they have returned home.

    Children whose parents abuse alcohol and other drugs are three times more likely to be abused and more than four times more likely to be neglected than children from non-abusing families.

    Parents' abuse of alcohol and other drugs can lead to a cycle of addiction, which is reflected by high rates of alcoholism and other substance abuse among children of addicts. Substance abuse among youth leads to a domino effect of problems in school, involvement in juvenile justice, teen pregnancy, and mental and emotional turmoil. By focusing on prevention programs for youth, the authors contend that the cycle can be broken. They also recommend that parents receive treatment from comprehensive programs.

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    Why do you want more abused kids?



    Parental Substance Abuse A Major Factor
    In Child Abuse And Neglect


    Parental substance abuse is a major factor contributing to child abuse and neglect. This connection is the subject of a new booklet by the Child Welfare League of America (CWLA).

    Among the booklet's findings are the following:

    More than 8 million children live with parents who are substance abusers.

    Substance abuse exists in 40 to 80 percent of families in which the children are victims of abuse.

    Children whose substance-abusing parents do not receive appropriate treatment are more likely to remain in foster care longer and to reenter foster care once they have returned home.

    Children whose parents abuse alcohol and other drugs are three times more likely to be abused and more than four times more likely to be neglected than children from non-abusing families.

    Parents' abuse of alcohol and other drugs can lead to a cycle of addiction, which is reflected by high rates of alcoholism and other substance abuse among children of addicts. Substance abuse among youth leads to a domino effect of problems in school, involvement in juvenile justice, teen pregnancy, and mental and emotional turmoil. By focusing on prevention programs for youth, the authors contend that the cycle can be broken. They also recommend that parents receive treatment from comprehensive programs.

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    Parental Substance Abuse A Major Factor
    In Child Abuse And Neglect


    Parental substance abuse is a major factor contributing to child abuse and neglect. This connection is the subject of a new booklet by the Child Welfare League of America (CWLA).

    Among the booklet's findings are the following:

    More than 8 million children live with parents who are substance abusers.

    Substance abuse exists in 40 to 80 percent of families in which the children are victims of abuse.

    Children whose substance-abusing parents do not receive appropriate treatment are more likely to remain in foster care longer and to reenter foster care once they have returned home.

    Children whose parents abuse alcohol and other drugs are three times more likely to be abused and more than four times more likely to be neglected than children from non-abusing families.

    Parents' abuse of alcohol and other drugs can lead to a cycle of addiction, which is reflected by high rates of alcoholism and other substance abuse among children of addicts. Substance abuse among youth leads to a domino effect of problems in school, involvement in juvenile justice, teen pregnancy, and mental and emotional turmoil. By focusing on prevention programs for youth, the authors contend that the cycle can be broken. They also recommend that parents receive treatment from comprehensive programs.
     
  17. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't, prohibitionist do though

    prohibition ruins families, why would one want to ruin families?

    prohibitionist also support terrorists and gangs... why do they do that?

    [video=youtube;_XFn8MMq_BE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XFn8MMq_BE[/video]

    fact is, those that abuse drugs or alcohol do it whether it's legal or not

    prohibition just makes criminals of those that do not abuse

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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Im talking about pot head parents jacking up their kids.
     
  19. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    addicts exist legal or not, prohibition just makes criminals of those that use responsibly

    you take a nice family drinking wine with dinner, arrest them for nothing more then drinking wine with dinner, give them a criminal record, it's the gateway to crime for many

    prohibition destroys families

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    This^^^^

    The law was based on lies, and passed as a lie, can't think of any other fraudulent law that exists on the books (except for the tax code), which is so obviously unconstitutional.
     
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    bullcrap, drug abusers, legal or not, arent responsible people. Theyre not responsible for themselves, and theyre not responsible parents.

    You praise these bullcrap stories, but never consider the consequences.

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    Total bullcrap
     
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    prohibitionist created that commercial... lol

    time to end the war on drugs, been going on long enough and it's easier now to get drugs then when it started, prohibition doesn't work, it just creates crime lords and makes recreational activities criminal, just like when alcohol was made illegal





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    I didnt even watch the commercial. I was referring to your silly statements, which completely disregard reality, and logic.
     
  24. FreshAir

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    prohibitionists blind themselves to the truth....
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Liars distort the truth.


    Parental Substance Abuse A Major Factor
    In Child Abuse And Neglect


    Parental substance abuse is a major factor contributing to child abuse and neglect. This connection is the subject of a new booklet by the Child Welfare League of America (CWLA).

    Among the booklet's findings are the following:

    More than 8 million children live with parents who are substance abusers.

    Substance abuse exists in 40 to 80 percent of families in which the children are victims of abuse.

    Children whose substance-abusing parents do not receive appropriate treatment are more likely to remain in foster care longer and to reenter foster care once they have returned home.

    Children whose parents abuse alcohol and other drugs are three times more likely to be abused and more than four times more likely to be neglected than children from non-abusing families.

    Parents' abuse of alcohol and other drugs can lead to a cycle of addiction, which is reflected by high rates of alcoholism and other substance abuse among children of addicts. Substance abuse among youth leads to a domino effect of problems in school, involvement in juvenile justice, teen pregnancy, and mental and emotional turmoil. By focusing on prevention programs for youth, the authors contend that the cycle can be broken. They also recommend that parents receive treatment from comprehensive programs.
     

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