House GOP to subpoena Biden family: 'Bank records don't lie,' Rep. Comer says

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  1. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not looking good for team democrat when CNN is criticizing DOJ, Weiss and Garland.


    David Weiss, DOJ accused of making 'unholy mess' with Hunter Biden case: 'All over the map'

    Honig said Weiss and Attorney General Merrick Garland 'are going to have to explain this at some point'

    CNN legal analyst Elie Honig criticized the Department of Justice and Special Cousel David Weiss on Monday and said they made an "unholy mess" of the Hunter Biden investigation.

    During an appearance on "CNN This Morning," host Poppy Harlow cited reporting from the New York Times that said Weis was initially willing to forgo any charges against the president's son. The reporting also said that Weis changed his position after a "pair of I.R.S. officials on the case accused the Justice Department of hamstringing the investigation."

    "The takeaway is that the DOJ has made an unholy mess of this whole Hunter Biden situation," Honig said. "I fault David Weiss, who I’ve spoken positively about on this show, given his long service as a U.S. attorney."

    "But if you look at that reporting, first he was willing to let this thing go all together. Political pressure ramped up, he backtracks and says, ‘oh no we’re going to need to take misdemeanor pleas.’ Then they go in to court ready to take misdemeanor pleas, more pressure, more testimony from the IRS and then this deal falls apart, and now he says, ‘well now I need to be called Special Counsel.’"


    Honig said Weiss’ actions have been mostly in reaction to IRS whistleblowers.

    "It seems like now twice, he’s tried to make this case go away cheaply, twice been called out on it, and twice back tracked, only in response to the whistleblowers," Honig said.

    David Weiss, DOJ accused of making 'unholy mess' with Hunter Biden case: 'All over the map' | Fox News
     
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I grow tired of the back and forth so let’s shorten it.

    Show some of these recordings featuring Joe Biden or corroborated instances of people actually meeting with him and Hunter to discuss favor exchanges.
     
  3. PPark66

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    It’s not good. The breakdown of the plea agreement is going to cause the political interference in the case to come spilling out back to 2018/2019. It gives Hunter’s team access they didn’t have before. Clark ( Biden’s former attorney—plea deal) becomes a witness. Weiss likely won’t be able to avoid IG (Horowitz) scrutiny even though he was named SC.

    Comer’s going to end up looking worse than he already does—if that’s possible.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It does quell the 'insurance' argument. If you think it doesn't, state your case. [

    You can't, because no one knows what they meant. But, now we do, and it's a 'nothingburger'.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    this is an articulation issue. He wasn't knowledgeable about all the details of his son's business, nor did he involve himself with it, nor is there any evidence to prove otherwise.

    In short, a nothing burger.

    If the above is true, which it is, he could easily be wrong about his son's business success.

    Being wrong doesn't equal lying, necessarily. People get facts wrong all the time.
    The question is redundant. See above.
    Provide the quote from a non-right wing source Methinks there is a misundertanding here.
    I don't know about 'only' which might be a 'spin', but Eric Trump stated that much of their funding was coming
    from Russia, so it's not a 'lie' outright.

    Eric Trump in 2014: ‘We have all the funding we need out of Russia’ | The Hill


    All you have, really, is spin.

    But this is not spin:

    "The only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election" --- 'donald trump's biggest lie.
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The more salient issue of 'insurance policy' is a meaningless point of contention.

    If you are claiming she is a liar, then the 'insurance policy' is a lie, also. You can't cherry pick.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Crushing your argument once is enough. Don't need to do it again, sorry.
    you are not referencing what you are responding do. Please clarify.
    You can believe whatever you want, but if you claim a fact, prove it.

    Either you have testimony, or you don't.
    talking about evidence is not proof.
    please substantiate your claim.
    5 years, no charges.

    No more needs to be said.

    You accuse, you prove. Everyone is innocent until you prove otherwise. It is not for me, nor Hunter, to 'prove' his innocence, or prove his LLCs were 'not legit'. ;There are over 10 legitimate reasons for an LLC.
    I addressed trhe issue of SARs and you have failed to rebut it. All you have is 'suspicion'.

    Maybe that is why Weiss hasn't charged Hunter, nor given a referral on Joe.
    Garland's and Weiss's credentials are impeccable as well,. Experts disagree ALL the time.

    Sorry, I don't find your 'credibility' argument that compelling. Whistleblowers, true ones, have information about large organizations operating in a way that is a 'menace to society', and I don't see how your 'whistleblowers' rise to that standard. They sound a lot more like disgruntled employees.
    Unlike Trump and all the criminals on your side of the equation, Garland and Weiss will respond to subpoenas.
    You tell me. Innocence is default. The onus is on YOU to prove your accusation.
    Innocence doesn't have to be explained. Allegations have to be proved.

    So prove it.
    All I see is that private citizens are earning money abroad. That's called entrepreneurship. Conservatives USED TO value such a thing.

    You allege, you prove.

    I've seen no proof, just documents that show a private citizen earned money abroad,.

    that could be a FARA, but that wouldn't be that big of a feather in the prosecutor's cap, if that is all he found on the PRESIDENT"S SON particularly when the world spotlight is burning down on your ass.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The e-mail most definitely implied they had an "insurance policy" against Trump being President. Don't pee on my shoes and tell me it's raining!
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    OOOOOOOOOOOO citing Weiss was appointed by Trump just TOTALLY CRUSH everything else. That PROVES IT!!!


    I have reference I have cited I have copied and pasted it and all you have are simple dismissals and claiming all the evidence is fake and all the whistleblowers are lying and the ONLY people telling the truth are Joe Biden and Garland and Weiss. You filter out EVERYTHING we and claim it is simply some one earning money from abroad like any other person earning money from abroad. You can't explain for what they were earning that money, you can't explain why the Vice-President of the United States was lending his influence to it, it was just like anyone else making money from overseas.

    Just forget about the almost two dozen shell companies they were laundering the money through EVERYONE does that no big deal. How many SAR's have been filed against you have you hit 100 yet?

    Forget about the shared credit card bill Hunter was sharing with the Vice-President everyone does that.

    Forget about the house remodeling being paid for from money obtained from our worst foreign adversaries EVERYONE does that nothing to see there.

    How many LLC's do you have that the Russian's are sending millions through and into your personal bank account for apparently no reason at all?

    The lap-top, the signed statements, the emails, the text messages, even Hunter's own admission that he indeed gets money from China in his court filing, all fake not true.

    I get it nothing will ever even raise a hair of suspicions and any and all investigations just stopped and everyone go home.
     
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    And there you trying to couch it again. Now it's that The Big Guy didn't know "all the details". So his statements and your support of those statements about he had NO KNOWLEDGE AT ALL................NADA..............ZIP...............never discuss it...NEVER are now are inoperative and this is your new operative statement?


    You now admit he DID know about the business of selling influence just not the details like how many companies it was being funneled through, the expenses of the employees of the company, how much each was getting out of it.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Trump had any particular weaknesses, I would say appointing the wrong ones in certain positions and allowing others to stay would be them. General Milley and Fauci would be 2 examples but Weiss is the one that came back to bite him. I understand he had a close relationship with Beau Biden so that would explain his penchant for sucking up to Joe and attempting to let Hunter off the hook scott free without a guilty plea!
     

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