House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. Bluesguy

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    What was omitted and be specific.

    Maybe you could also point out the parts that have wrecked our intelligence gathering and national security.
     
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    Without the dossier the FBI would not have even tried to get a warrant. Pretty simple.
     
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    Not sure what's worse. Using a piece of altered partisan propaganda with facts intentionally left out as truth or that you realize this but ignore it anyway.
     
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    I see you don't understand your own source.

    The 2013 event Page was involved with was several Russian spies trying to get information from him.

    That does not mean that Page knew they were spies, nor does it mean he was "working with them".

    In fact, the Russians in question were arrested, yet Page was not arrested.

    Why do you think Page wasn't arrested? Go ahead and break that down for me.
     
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    Its all supported by evidence including testimony from the very most senior people in the intelligence and law enforcement bodies.

    And don't worry we too recognize its incomplete and want more but as it stands the missing pieces remain classified.
     
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    We have another!!! How quick the Nunes narrative is spreading like wildfire.
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    I've never been far away.

    Then Comey lied before the congress and Fusion lied before congress because no has said they confirmed anything except that yes Carter Page took a trip to Russia and nothing illegal occured. Comey even told President Trump they could not corroborate what was in it.

    Now deal with the substance

    Information the FBI KNEW had not been corroborated but was used anyway.
     
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    The facts there are enough. The FBI used an unverified political opponents opposition research disquised as FBI intelligence to spy on an American during a presidential campaign. There is that pesky constitution and the 4th amendment and all y'all like to trash.
     
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    lol, that post is about as fake as the memo
     
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    Still zero evidence they used the dossier.
    And can you tell me what the dossier got wrong about Carter page?
     
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    More information...

     
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    Good point.

    “Tip of The Iceberg” – The Pending Intelligence Memo is The Beginning, Not The End…
    The House Intelligence Memo is simply using the example of currently known FISA abuse to open the door and show the U.S. electorate how corrupt this unaccountable institution has become. Behind that door are very uncomfortable realities for all of those who constructed the weaponized agency; and also those who have benefited from it.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...telligence-memo-is-the-beginning-not-the-end/

     
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    Your request for the FISA application might be a hard one since the FBI refused to turn it over to Congress.
     
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    FISA order on an American citizen must be renewed by FISC every 90 days & requires a separate finding of probable cause. FBI & DOJ obtained one initial FISA warrant targeting Page & 3 FISA renewals from the FISC. What probable cause existed, besides the dossier, on each renewal?
     
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    no, that is one of many things... the problem is republicans did not list the other sources and methods used, thus claiming only this one document was used

    if I do a report, and accuse someone of working with Russia or being a terrorist, it may be included in the information for a FISA request, but you can bet they will verify with additional sources and methods before being allowed a FISA warrant - my accusation may cause the FBI to start looking at them, but it would not be the sole
     
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    You mean except for the testimony of McCabe.
     
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    Because they were using the dossier as their facts on which to seek the warrant and presented those facts to the judge as being factual and corroborated.
     
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    If by that you mean the willingness of Obama's DOJ officials to commit perjury on their applications for a FISA warrant against members of the Trump campaign, then yes.
     
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    By having the name Nunes memo all tangible credibility is lost.
     
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    They can't get past this fact and it's killing them lol.
     
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    LOL, have you missed the fact that they can't uncover sources and methods? The unverified dossier being used at all is the problem.

    Fruit of the poison tree.

    Like, 1/2 of this is cyanide, the other 1/2 is orange juice so it is good for you.
     
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    "Now"? LOL
    No dossier, no FISA warrant - and you agree.
    That said, how do you get the FISA warrant w/o submitting the information from the dossier?
     
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    Again, you ask a question for which you know the answer is impossible to know without having access and being willing to expose classified information.
     
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    In a pathetic attempt to obscure the obvious conclusion, that Officials in Obama's DoJ committed perjury, for political gain.
     
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    As a body the United States House of Representatives voted to release information it has gathered through its Article I Constitutional authority and obligations. This isn't Rep Nunes speaking it is the House of Representatives speaking.
     
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