House to Vote on Same-Sex Marriage and Contraception Rights

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  1. Disaffected

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    I'm very interested to see how the Republicans handle this. Legal same-sex marriage and contraception all have overwhelming support among independent voters, but I'm guessing more than a few GOP politicians will feel forced to abstain (or even vote no) in order to pacify certain small but vocal elements of their base. I'm curious to see how many, especially in the Senate.

    Traditionally a Republican Senator could avoid this peril by simply calling the vote unnecessary, saying "This issue has already been settled by the courts and Congress is just wasting its time, that's why I'm abstaining...etc." But now, thanks to Justice Thomas, that doesn't work. Thomas explicitly mentioned contraception and same-sex marriage rights as vulnerable to revision by the court unless they are explicitly protected by law.

    I can't imagine ANY swing-state Senator wants to be on the record voting against a right to contraception or protection for same-sex marriages. And, until the last six to eight years, I'd have wagered that most of them would have quickly voted "yes" and tried to get past the issue as quickly as possible. But now? I don't know.

    What do you think? What proportion of the GOP will vote against protections for same-sex marriage and contraception? Will they kill it in the Senate?
     
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    I look forward to them being forced to take a position on the free exercise of the individual to sign a civil document and their stance on the bodily autonomy of females (and apparently girls as well). Not to mention the ability to buy contraceptives.

    We will get to see just how far fascist they have moved.

    Link for those interested
    https://www.npr.org/2022/07/19/1112213293/house-vote-same-sex-marriage
     
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    If I read your link correctly, the contraceptives stuff is in another bill. I think the real clever part about this bill was putting approval for same sex marriage and interracial marriage in the same bill.

    I too am curious to see how the GOP in the House is going to vote. If it was just same sex marriage you might get a bare majority of Republicans to vote in favor, but throw in interracial marriage and it drops down to a handful. I suspect a lot of Republicans in the House will miss that vote.
     
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    Interracial marriage and same sex marriage are built on the same fundamental rights — I typically like to see stand alone bills but I can understand why they grouped them.

    Why do you think fewer Republicans will vote for interracial marriage than same sex marriage?
     
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    Final vote in the House was 267-157, now it will go to the Senate

    It’s interesting that the cons are not discussing the merits of the bill but rather saying that the SCOTUS has already ruled and this piece of legislation isn’t needed. They really think the American voter is a complete fool.
     
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    I think I might have not wrote that clearly. Let me try again. A stand alone same sex marriage bill might get a bare majority of of House Republicans to oppose the bill, but if you throw in interracial marriage, the number of Republicans who would oppose it would just be a trickle.
     
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    This doesn't seem like it should be a federal issue.

    Why do Progressives always want to apply things across the entire country?

    And talking about "Contraception rights" is a little dishonest, because I think they are mainly talking about the Plan B pill that could be used to induce abortions.
    It dishonestly gives the impression that Conservatives are trying to regulate contraception, which is not true.

    Anyone who believed this has just proven how easy it is for them to buy into media lies.

    What you mean is they don't want the media to take their position and be able to easily lie about it, making the stupid voters think that politician is against contraception.
     
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    47 Republicans voted for the bill, out of 211, so I think I was wrong on that. I thought it would be much higher
     
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    It's a campaign issue, not a real issue.
     
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    Yep. The Republicans snatched that one away from y'all...lol
     
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    Because they value rights no matter what part of the country someone lives in

    It is literally about contraceptives. Did you even bother to read it before your comment?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut

    It’s ironic you saying it is easy for people to buy into lies while doing so.
     
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    If Leftists valued rights, they wouldn't be trying to ban guns.
     
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    You understand the bill passed the House, right?
     
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    Seeing that almost 60% of Republicans support same sex marriage one would think the final vote would be close to that number. We really need to pass the Wyoming act. They do not represent the people.
     
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    Guns have been shown to increase both the incidence of major crimes as well as the severity.

    If you changed guns with grenades or guns with asbestos you would likely (maybe) see why some don’t conciser guns to be a rights issue. For the record I support guns rights with reasonable restrictions but this is a poor comparison.
     
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    Lol no they don’t. Your biased BS polls notwithstanding
     
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    And homosexuality increases the likelihood of child molestation, drug use, std transmission, depression, self harming and suicidal behaviors.
     
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    I would ask you for your source but if it is as nonexistent as your typical ones I won’t bother.

    Thanks for your opinion though!
     
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    Marriage has been shown to decrease drug use, promiscuity and depression so it looks like you would support same sex marriage — unless you believe that same sex marriage increases the number of gay people!

    As to molestation, no reputable source has ever found gay people are more likely to molest children outside of some from when homosexuality was still criminalized — statistically speaking the average child rapist is a white heterosexual male that is a friend or relative of the victim. Not that you care.
     
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    Given you’ve run away with your tail tucked between your legs during multiple discussions after I’ve provided sources… you should probably just stop talking.

    In fact I’m fairly confident in saying that I’ve never failed to present a source for my claims when you’ve asked for them.
     
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    No such sources show that evidence is true with gay marriage.

    Moreover males who have sex with males make up approximately 29% of all child molestation. Now I know you and your ilk are fond of saying “well just because a male has sex with another male, that doesn’t mean he can’t still be heterosexual” however any reasonable person who isn’t brainwashed with the homosexual lefts bullshit agenda recognizes that’s nothing more than an excuse for you to use because you’re incapable of defending why males who have sex with males are so GROSSLY overrepresented in regards to child molestation.
     
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    Furthermore they’ve actually done at least one study to see if marriage for gays has reduced the rate of depression, anxiety, self harming behavior, drug addiction and suicide rates.

    Care to guess what the results of that study was? I’ll bet you don’t.
     
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    Hahaha ok — post your recent source showing that the majority of Republicans disagree with same sex marriage.
     
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    I bet your source is trying to assert that all men — even men married to women with children that are only attracted to women — that rape a boy are classified as homosexual while simultaneously not increasing the percentage of the population that self identifies as homosexual. Attraction to children is not the same as homosexuality or homosexuality, it is a different sexual classification all together.

    But feel free to post your source.
     
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    No see this is the dishonest bs that your side has to engage in.

    If someone has sex with both males and females he/she is, by definition, a bisexual. Asserting they’re heterosexual is completely absurd unless you just don’t know the definition of heterosexual.
     

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