How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

"How America took out Nordstream"....any evidence of this gifty....not so gifty?

If you have it....provide it? Not some verbal flatulence criticizing other posters here.

Irrefutable video evidence would be great....not some dubious YT vids showing Biden "saying so" ....that don't cut it)....over to you mate!

 

This silly thread belongs in Conspiracy Theories.

 

cc: @Ethereal

 

Yup....or another edition of "thread fail"?

 

You OK Durandal .. mouth can't speak ? can only blather the names of other posters .. can't stand on own two feet .. come on now- buck up and stand for something.

 

So have any of the investigations into the bombing proven the Russians did it?

 

Not that I'm aware. I also don't see anyone claiming otherwise, unlike you and several others in this thread who think that fiction = PROOF

 

So there is no proof the Russians did it? Is that what you are telling me?

 

Wrong answer... a thorough investigation is needed... Seymour Hersh should be number one on the list... there are some details in his article that only he can answer.. there is more than enough "reasonable suspicion" to start an investigation...

 

Of course. I never said otherwise.

 

No, you never claimed there was proof, merely that the Russians did it.

 

Seymour Hersh should be investigated first? I wouldn't bother. It might be fun to find out who his "anonymous source" is. Probably lives in his head, to be honest.

But no, his work of fiction does not establish any "reasonable suspicion."

 

Right. If it wasn't clear, I was stating my opinion. I've never said that we have evidence or proof publicly available that they did it.

 

I can show those very claims by the president and Newland .... you show me Putin claiming he will there "will no longer be a Nord Stream 2" "ONE WAY OR NOTHER"

https://rumble.com/v28uvoo-victoria...-ger-russland-innrs-stega-vit-nord-strea.html
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FVbEoZXhCrM

 

Funny the fake WaPo and CNN continued use of secret "anonymous source" is well excepted, but not in this case...

His work is more than enough "reasonable suspicion" to start an investigation... but the DOJ ain't about to look under that rock..

 

The claim has been discredited.

 

Bornholm is a danish island near swedish coast, in the part of the Baltic where the sea becomes narrower before the water getting through the danish straights.
It does host regularly NATO trainings. This is one of the most watched waters on Earth. Russian vessels can depart from the Gulf of Finland were NATO surveillance is intense, or from Kaliningrad, same. Both areas are quite far from Bornholm.
It is otherwise repeated all the time that USA has superior surveillance/intelligence capabilities and they do know where and when Putin is going to take a piss before he goes there. USA claims they did know that Russia was going to start a war in Ukraine.
They repeat that they run extensive surveillance of all borders around Russia. They have AWACS and whatnot fancy satellite watching every needle all over Russia.

But they did miss a russian vessel crawling from Sankt Peterburg to Bornholm?

Then the fact that americans have been threatening countless times about these gas pipes.

So of course it's an american NATO sabotage. It can not be anything else.

Americans: we talk of people who didn´t hesitate one second in killing for no other reason than showing muscle a whole city and all its population with nuclear fire (Nagasaki) despite knowing the effects of the first bombing (Hiroshima). Killing and bestiality is just hardwired into american mind.

 

Misconstrued comments about ending the pipeline do not mean that it was "of course" sabotage by America or NATO. You're making no effort to be objective and evaluate facts here.

I'll also point out that such explosives could have been planted by an ordinary-looking surface vessel or some other means long before the explosions. Months or even years before.

 

I agree that the comments by Biden and others to destroy Nord are not proof .. but it does seem the idea was circulating .. and Biden .. as is his track record . could not keep a secret.

What means "Of course sabatoge by America" is the good Semour Hersh telling us that it was .. in conjunction occam's razor pointing that direction.

 

Your tripe about "actual facts" and "credible sources" mimic the BS Sy's critics spammed when he revealed the crimes at My Lai and Abu Ghraib; here's an "actual fact" Sy presented in his recent expose, can you refute it?

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/02/09/ftaz-f09.html

"From its earliest days, Nord Stream 1 was seen by Washington and its anti-Russian NATO partners as a threat to western dominance…

"The direct route, which bypassed any need to transit Ukraine, had been a boon for the German economy, which enjoyed an abundance of cheap Russian natural gas—enough to run its factories and heat its homes while enabling German distributors to sell excess gas, at a profit, throughout Western Europe…

"America’s political fears were real: [Russian President] Putin would now have an additional and much-needed major source of income, and Germany and the rest of Western Europe would become addicted to low-cost natural gas supplied by Russia—while diminishing European reliance on America…

"As long as Europe remained dependent on the pipelines for cheap natural gas, Washington was afraid that countries like Germany would be reluctant to supply Ukraine with the money and weapons it needed to defeat Russia."

 

Totally agree. This is so outlandishly out there in the whacko-sphere it warrants a place in a QANON dedicated orbit around Uranus.

 

He's gotta say something, even if it makes no sense. It's his job.

 

Of course you want to censor this story. That is how US GOV apologists roll.

When you can't win a debate on the merits, just whine until your opponent gets censored. Standard liberal playbook.

 

Your opinion is manifestly illogical, ridiculous, and not supported by a shred of evidence.

 

US/NATO sabotage.....??

I'll say .....Again.

Any irrefutable evidence?.....if not....ALL SPECULATION.