How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

But you understand all what I'm writing before and after this question. As I understand, this is your intelligent forum mood, what you miss here - be proud that you know your mother's tongue(great achievement) and post some bullshit about things you don't know anything about without any logic in it?

 

A total lie. Absolutely laughable.

If Kiev can stand on its own without US backing, then why is Zelenskyy constantly begging for more money, money ammo, more weapons, more equipment, more everything?

Of course Kiev is a damn puppet. Of course they can't stand on their own. They are 100% reliant on US backing. The only thing Kiev provides is the cannon fodder. And they are going to lose anyway. Russia is about to run right over the shattered remnants of Kiev's army.

 

Because before and after, you wrote marginally coherent sentences that I could easily interpret.

WHAT ABOUT THIS CONFUSES YOU?

 

Ukraine was dumb enough to be a pawn on the US chessboard. They will get nothing in return for their sacrifice. Zelenskyy will sell his country off to JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs and put the money in his offshore bank account.

 

You mean something like Putlerstan?

Dwarfstan is lucky McCain didn't get a chance to be president.

There'd be a whole lotta hurt more on Putinka than what there is now.

 

What does Dwarfstan get for their current situation?....lifetime sanctions, poverty for average vatnik....further disintegration of the RF....I can go on?

 

Bill...you sound angry?

Why so?....you get call up papers?

 

You've got proof the US blew up pipes?

 

Ohhh...ya don't say.

Hmmm....why does Mafiosi beg NK for ammo and Iran for drones....and backing from Chinos?

Do they enjoy being China's "bum chum"?

Mafiosi about to run over Kyivs army??

How's the 3 day op turning out?.....it's day # 350?

 

Hmmmm....name calling....sounds like desperation.

I've noticed a recent uptick in Olgino consortium postings here and other message boards.....desperation is in the air it seems....and the puddy cats haven't even arrived yet?

 

Lie because it's lie?

You know, high intense war is going on there, weapon and ammo supply started to come to an end at some point. Of course, Ukraine asked US and Europe for weapons and support. And US and Europe give weapons and support, just like in WW2 US did the same to Britain, France and USSR, as US did in Youm Kippur war when delivered 200 Patton tanks to Israel. Does it make Britain, France, USSR or Israel US vassal? Of course no, just your understanding of the world and view on international and even human to human relationships is very primitive, as You are not as quite intelligent and smart man as You think you are.

Provides cannon fodder for what and to whoom?

 

No, I'm writing the same, and my question was very simple - why gas is not going to Germany trough this one pipe, which was not blown up? Then You understood, that you just don't have answer to this question and all your conspiracy theory broke down, and as You are not very smart, only thing that come to your mind was "you don't know English" argument. It's ridiculous and stupid. You still don't understand this simple truth?

 

I love that there are still people who take Sy Hersh seriously. Undoubtedly a great journalist once....a very long time ago. Now basically that angry old man standing on a footpath yelling at clouds.

This thread is genuine comedy.

 

I have an answer to this question - why gas is not flowing thought the last remaining pipe anyway. It's because just after invasion in February 2022. Germany shut down any possibility, that Nord Stream 2 will be used, just as Biden told before, and this pipe is not used.So there was no reason for US to blow these pipelines up.

 

Ask, though, “Would such a move [USA attacking this pipeline] be in the ‘interest of the US’?”

I think that it would have been and therefore likely that we done did it.

 

Conspiracy theorist manual - "look at whose interest bad things happen". And because usually they are just extremely incompetent about things they are trying to decide, they just point to whatever they like as person/country in whose interests bad things happen. Analog here is arguing, that doctors are the reason of all diseases, because without diseases they will not have a job.

 

Right, and yes, usually, but this one sort of dovetails with US interests so well that it looks “plausible”.

 

Yes, in US interest is to risk their reputation and relationship with allies and blow up pipeline, who does not work anyway in way, that every consporology theorist and "free thinker" is second can figure out, that this is US guilt.

 

Sorry I just noticed this thread and it looks like I'm a bit late to the party here...so sorry if this has already been discussed...

.....It's a good read but I think it needs a few tweeks. I think this is the outline for a novel?? Are you familiar with this guy?

Little things like this for example..

...I think that needs a bit of work as he seems to be out of his comfort zone when discussing the technical matters...

...and this..

..I don't think it's beyond the realms of man's current technical abilities to put a clock on something but its got the makings of one of those good high tech lab scenes with boffins head scratching and mumbling to each other....that kind of thing...
The reason I say that is the huge political intrigue that he goes on between the above quote and this one

...the problem he details it's not in fact an issue people have been using timers etc etc. for decades. I understand the reason he's doing it but it just makes for a disjointed story...as you can see there's quite a stretch in the narrative between the two quotes ...



On the whole though its a fun read and the political angle makes up for the lack of his technical knowledge - that can easily be remedied by a bit of research...Jane's is a good place to start as they would have people that could offer guidance

 

One thing which doesn't appear to be in short supply is conspiracy theories. This thread stands as proof.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

The problem is we don't know and probably we will never know who did it. Whoever hates Democrats will call Hersh the greatest American journalist and President Biden government "the pathological liars". I think I know what they think about President Trump.
My not important opinion: the story Hersh wrote makes sense. It also means Biden has bigger balls than Trump. Was this action good for the world and for America? For sure it was dangerous and not legal, but Russian invasion of Ukraine was not legal either.

 

OK. It seems your interest in evidence wasn't genuine.

 

You haven't shown any evidence. I stay will calling it nonsense for lack of evidence. That is more than your post merits.

 

Flawed as it may be - Kudos for making an argument

Germany did not shut down Nordstream possibility but, even if it had and this was no reason for the US to blow up the line .. doesn't mean there were not other reasons for CIA/MI6 to do the dirty deed .. one of the most simple ... to aggrivate Russia - another would be to fulfill Biden's promise as some have suggested .. and many more possibilities .. related to aggrivating Russia.

Even if Germany doesn't by gas from the Nord 2 ... someone else will ... but the fact of the matter .. is that Politician's in Germany are already calling for a return to Russian Energy .. this strike was a strike against Russian Energy.

 

Of course it is .. which is why folks should not go on the wild goose chase .... as this wastes time in the search for evidence. It seems your logic is full of holes and you are wrong once again .. worsening an already horrible track record.

My advice to you would be to stop consuming state sponsored propaganda .. as if it constitutes proof of claim ... and to learn of what an argument consists of.