How anti-vaxxers weaponized Ivermectin, a horse de-wormer drug, as a COVID-19 treatment

Don't have to tell you what group of people who are taking this?!! Just get the vaccines?!!

The right-wing obsession with the veterinary drug is a tactic to undermine COVID-19 vaccines, experts say

In November 2020, a pre-print study touting the safety and efficacy of an anti-parasitic drug called Ivermectin was published on the Research Square website, a platform where scientific studies are submitted before they are peer-reviewed and accepted by a journal.

The study, led by Dr. Ahmed Elgazzar of Egypt's Benha University, claimed that in a randomized control trial of nearly 600 people, hospitalized COVID-19 patients who "received ivermectin early reported substantial recovery."

In the search for a COVID-19 wonder drug, the preprint study seemed promising. But then, in July 2021, the paper was pulled "due to ethical concerns." Those concerns included alleged plagiarism and calculation of data points that were "mathematically impossible," according to The Guardian.

Despite the retraction, the anti-parasite drug is allegedly flying off shelves of local farmer supply stores, according to various local news reports who say some feed stores are struggling to keep it in stock. That's because the drug has become a political flashpoint, enveloped by the culture wars just like nearly everything else related to the pandemic.

Indeed, Republicans politicians like Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) have promoted Ivermectin as a COVID treatment. Robert Malone, a doctor who has spread COVID-19 vaccine misinformation on platforms like "Tucker Carlson Tonight," alleged to have personally used the drug to treat COVID-19, further popularizing it among followers of Carlson's show. The response to Malone's latest Ivermectin-related tweet reveals how many of his followers are using the so-called treatment to undermine the available COVID-19 vaccines.

"You don't need a #vaccine, people," one commented. "Ivermectin works," another one chimed in.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/09/ho...horse-de-wormer-drug-as-a-covid-19-treatment/

There are also wicked side effects for humans taking in Ivermectin too?!!

 

The centaur made me laugh. Ivermectin is very good at preventing humans from becoming elephant-like but I’ve never heard of it turning people into centaurs. Did you know just in Africa, at least four times as many people take ivermectin annually than there are horses in the whole world?

Don’t misunderstand, ingesting horse dewormer is not wise. But human ivermectin use just for Onchocerciasis control alone in Africa has resulted in preventing 17.4 million years of lost healthy human life. Categorizing ivermectin as a veterinary drug is far from accurate even if some are sourcing ivermectin from veterinary suppliers.

 

It's just more I'm right and the other person is wrong on top of being an idiot.

They leave out the fine details to push their narrative. There are countless medications that work for ailments it wasn't made for. Viagra was invented because R&D was trying to develop a heart medication. It's ridiculous how much people just repeat things they hear because it aligns with their views despite the source of that information being wrong.

 

They are just pissed off their profits for their super expensive patented drugs are being threatened. We must do all we can to discredit it and ridicule anyone who asks questions....

 

....and widely prescribed anticoagulants started out as a rat poison.....

 

Very true. As you have said many times the only solution is to acquire your own information and make your own decisions on your health.

What really concerns/upsets me about Ivermectin is the fact after 16 months of perfect environment for testing this drug for efficacy on Covid we STILL don’t have definite answers. That is the part that concerns me—not whether it is efficacious or not. We simply must do better whether it’s incompetence or intentional acts leading to our lack of knowledge at this point.

 

You are the first person that has ever agreed with me on this. Every single person I've ever met thinks I'm "crazy for just not trusting your doctor."

Trust is earned, not given or forced.
I have no idea what rank my doctor was when he/she graduated.
It's my body so it's 100% my risk.

That last one is important. We would think someone was a padded room-able lunatic if they put 100% of their money on anything but it makes sense to not educate yourself (not inside an echo chamber of just accepting the research you agree with but ALL of the information available) and put 100% of your own body on the best your doctor cares more about you than you do?

That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my entire life.

It's a combination of both with some apathy thrown in.

 

I suppose the problem now is that since the vaccine is now available who would be willing to be a test subject where one group gets invermectin and the other group gets saline solution but each group needs to be unvaccinated. I suppose the study could be carried out in third world countries where the vaccine roll out is slow though that seems unethical since a vaccine is available?

 

Or you could just use vaccinated individuals to test it if you think it’s a problem finding unvaccinated subjects.

 

Several randomized controlled trials have been done already. The results from the well-done ones (methodologically speaking) point to ivermectin not working. A study supporting that it does work, was retracted due to plagiarism and made-up data, like the OP said. As of now ivermectin is not indicated to treat or prevent Covid-19. Instead of reaching for "miracle" drugs, people should just get vaccinated.

People need to recalibrate their expectations regarding the vaccines. They don't prevent infection in all cases but do prevent hospitalizations and death for the vast majority of vaccinated people. Every time some bombastic journalist issues a headline about vaccinated people who still caught the virus, one needs to understand that the likelihood of those people going to overwhelmed hospitals and dying is much smaller than for unvaccinated people.

 

I suppose you could see it as that kind of conspiracy, but the FDA, NIH, World Health Organization, the Journal of the American Medical Association and even the company that makes ivermectin, the drug is not effective in treating Covid-19.

Yet Rand Paul, Ron Johnson and Louie Gohmert are suggesting that there haven't been any trials or analysis of ivermectin because of hatred for Trump. When the company that makes the drug says it isn't effective for Covid treatment, I would suggest people should listen. Afterall, they are making sh!t tons of money off those who are taking it...

 

Those cheap mask everyone wears states on the box "does not protect against covid 19" but people still wear them.
*Note I'm not saying ivermectin IS effective, only that it would not be the first time big pharma ridiculed alternate medicines to protect a profit monopoly.

 

Still far better than being forced into taking vaccines.

Many totalitarian-minded people want to force vaccines on the rest of society.
They've already started coercing people in many places. Right now soldiers serving in the military are being threatened with prison time and having their careers ruined if they don't take them. In some places public school teachers are being fired, in masse.

 

Here's an interesting Ivermectin story from Ohio today

https://news.yahoo.com/ohio-judge-orders-hospital-treat-151855662.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

As long as this prescribed by a validly licensed Ohio doctor, I'm with the judge on this one...

Fire that stuff in there... What do you have to lose?? Oh...... right.....

Hey, if it works, it works.... Nobody should have a problem with this if prescribed in the correct HUMAN dosage by a licensed doctor..

Of course, here's what's going to happen.... predictable as the tides.... this guy is going to get better (regardless of how) and suddenly Ivermectin will be the reason, when it could just be a slow recovery...

 

Oh the silly! Ivermectin has two forms, veterinary and human. Vets use many human drugs on animals.

Are you saying we should never take antibiotics because they use the same on animals?

 

Ivermectin is already approved for human use. Big pharma uses it as an active ingredient.

Now, if you want to be stuffed and mounted in the corner beside trigger, go ahead and scurry on down to the feed and seed and get you some of the stuff made for a 2,000 pound horse.

 

Of course that's happened - but it isn't in this case - which is what you suggested. You said - in this thread, about this situation - They are just pissed off their profits for their super expensive patented drugs are being threatened. We must do all we can to discredit it and ridicule anyone who asks questions....

 

Oh, here is yet another genius doctor.

Rand Paul says scientists won't study horse-deworming drug ivermectin's use as a potential COVID cure because of their 'hatred for Trump'
https://news.yahoo.com/rand-paul-claims-scientists-wont-045732346.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

 

I prefer the fish tank cleaner myself, haven't had covid yet and my insides are algae free...

 

I dont know if it works or not but I do know they hate medicine they cant hold a monopoly on. Just look at the scorn and ridicule of osteopathic treatments. Modern medicine is all about chemical drugs, radiation or surgery.

 

Required vaccines have been around at least one hundred years where have you been?

 

That's how the AMA rolls. I was lambasted by an AMA-proponent for daring to say that I and my loved ones suffered at the hands of AMA licensed doctors. I didn't deserve that at all and, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what they stats say. If you're on the *wrong* side of a statistic, it trumps all the studies in the Universe.

 

You act as if it is only used in livestock. It has been used in humans as an anti-parasitical drug since before you were born. It is cheap, safe, effective, and seems to work quite well as a COVID treatment.

The COVID jabs are undermining themselves. They were too rushed, not properly tested, and VAERS is off the charts with reported side effects. Get jabbed if you wish, but don't try to force, coerce, or bribe others into getting jabbed. My body my choice, right?

What "experts"??

No there aren't. There ARE wicked side effects for humans taking the jab though... Bell's palsy, anaphylactic shock, and death are among those side effects... Those are not side effects of ivermectin.[/quote]

 

You have no idea what you're talking about because you can't even get the numbers right... It's dosed for a 1,250 pound horse, not a 2,000 pound horse. Additionally, you are not required to inject all 1,250 pounds worth of it at once... The dispenser has weight markings on the side of it, so dose appropriately to weight... This is how it's done in horses as well, as not all horses weigh exactly 1,250 pounds. --- Why people act as if this is impossible to figure out is beyond me... Oh wait, it's because the FDA is acting as if this is impossible to figure out, and people just mindlessly parrot what the FDA says...

 

Well you go get at it then. Tell Trigger hello for me as well.