How chemical weapons have helped bring Assad close to victory.

Ok ... of course, what is commonly called conspiracy and false flag is theoretically possible too...

But as I said, it can also be a simple accident and does not have to be a gas attack by Assad or whomever.
There is no evidence for anything here ... even if the self-proclaimed Master of the Universe at us have already pleaded guilty to Assad without any evidence.

 

And why was there a big fire brigade with evacuation of the neighborhood because a thick cloud of chlorine gas floated through the street ...?
Certainly not an exaggerated safety measure ...

 

Almost certainly an exaggerated safety measure. They likely didn't want the public complaining about a strong chlorine small without there having been some action from the local authorities.

I'd be interested to see the story because it must have been a very bad leak. The stories I could find during a quick Google tend to be that a building is evacuated because of issues with an indoor pool. Having an entire neighbourhood evacuated does seem like a different order of magnitude.

 

Several possibilities. How do you know that it was a "thick cloud of chlorine" which does not actually mean anything chemically. Was it chlorine? Was it staged? Was it water vapour mixed with any other gas? Was it just a normal water treatment site event? Chlorine gas has to be very concentrated to be used as a weapon which you will not get from water treatment crystals as other compounds such as NCl3 is also released which reduces the concentration of chlorine gas produced

 

Definitely that, but probably over-reaction, or more likely, control freakery.

 

It was a normal private Swimming Pool of 20 x 10 meter where the fool wanted to maintain and clean etc. and where the bucket with the chlorine ganul felt by stupidity into the water of the pool ... and it was chlorine granul he has bought in a normal shop who sells such swimming pool stuff

 

Wow, you really couldn't be more wrong. It absolutely is a deadly weapon. It causes hydrochloric acid to form in your lungs, drowning you.

 

do you have a link to the story ?

 

To this not ... but to other same or comparable issues I have many, but all in German language!

1)
https://www.nrz.de/staedte/dinslake...enxer-schwimmbad-ausgetreten-id214946377.html

2)
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/bade...in-schwimmbad-aus-40-verletzte-a-1196729.html

3)
https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/bw/ka...=1572/did=21285220/nid=1572/18nciv/index.html

4)
https://www.muenchen.tv/chlorgas-unfall-in-haidhausen-10905/

And using Google I found this in English:

https://www.msdsonline.com/2015/02/...ven-small-quantities-of-chlorine-pose-danger/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6619a3.htm

 

Those are quite different stories to the one you referred to, and just like the ones I found. Buildings containing (large) swimming pools being evacuated when there is a chlorine leak is a quite different story than an entire neighbourhood being evacuated because some guy accidentally dumped an entire container of chlorine into his backyard pool - not least because a public pool likely has a different kind of chlorination system.

Even so, in the case of the leak in Hünxer, the fire department said that there was no risk because the sprinklers started working immediately.

 

The only difference is that it happened in the closed space of a public swimming pool. The result is the same regarding chlorine gas cloud!

 

I disagree. There's a huge difference between a single building with an industrial chlorination plant being evacuated when there's a chlorine leak within the building and an entire neighbourhood being evacuated because some fool dropped an entire bucket of chlorine crystals into his backyard pool.

That's why I want to see a link to the story you referred to because evacuating an entire neighbourhood sounds like a gross over-reaction unless there was a heck of a lot more to it than some guy using too much chlorine in his pool.

 

It was in our local news paper reported and they don't have any webnews or internet archive or so as it looks like.

Of course, an industrial chlorine accident is something else than a private one.
But here the cases are closed and covered swimming pools where the gas could not escape outside. Nevertheless, had to be evacuated because there was a chlorine gas cloud.

 

Without wanting you to Doxx yourself, are you prepared to name the paper. Even if it does not have an online presence, a wire service may have picked up on the story. "Neighbourhood evacuated because some guy overdid the chlorine in his backyard pool" would likely get some traction.

You asked whether we thought that the fire department evacuating an entire neighbourhood was overkill in the case you described - a guy dumping a bucket full of store bought chlorine crystals in his backyard pool. My response was, yes it was unless there were other factors - which is why I wanted a link to a the story to see if there was more to it than that.

The stories I can find online are all like the ones you found too, indoor pool with industrial chlorination plant, discharging chlorine inside which forced the evacuation of the building. IMO the key differences, each of which makes orders of magnitude difference, are:

- indoor vs. outdoor pool
- industrial chlorination system vs. bucket of store bought chlorine crystals
- evacuation of single building vs. evacuation of entire neighbourhood

So either there is far more to the story, or it was a ridiculous overreaction.

 

The chlorine released from a swimming pool accident would result in people coughing and then walking away - no long term effects other than for any person within a few feet of the accident. Chlorine released from a chlorine weapon attack would result in probable deaths and long term side effects. I don't understand why some posters are claiming that one of the events was a swimming pool accident especially as the OP references many chlorine attacks. For the record I'm not saying which side is responsible just using science

 

Here:

https://www.rundschau-online.de/action/rundschau-online/4484314/search?query=Chlorgas+Unfall

This is the only you find strange way by search. I thappened in Koeln-Rath where I live and was reportet in this newspaper and is not given as result

Entire neighborhood was about 10 houses of the street here ...

 

Thanks...

Will look around and see if anyone else picked up on it.

 

Re:

I agree with & appreciate your "...just using science"

Since the topic at hand is Bashar Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons, I simply don't believe that Assad ordered their deployment or the Syrian military used them nor does James Mattis(1) believe that they were used by the Syrian military.

I don't believe that Assad ordered the deployment of chemical weapons because I simply don't regard him as a hard hearted despotic thug. Assad is the only international leader, to my knowledge, that is an M.D. & has the nickname, "Mr. Soft Heart"(2). Neither is the profile of the baby eating tyrant he is portrayed to be by Western pro Israel(3), anti Islamic(4) MSM.

Secondly, due to the aid of Russia & Iran in fighting the Israeli, US, Saudi etc supported ISIS, al Nusra, "Syrian Rebels" etc, the Syrian military is winning & doesn't have to rely on the use of WMDs that are likely to incur a Western response.
Finally, I don't doubt that chemical weapons have been used but I simply don't believe that Assad ordered their deployment.




(1) "WHERE’S THE EVIDENCE ASSAD USED SARIN GAS ON HIS PEOPLE?"
http://www.newsweek.com/wheres-evidence-assad-used-sarin-gas-his-people-810123

EXCERPT "Secretary of Defense James Mattis made it very clear recently that “aid groups and others” had provided the U.S. with evidence that was insufficient to conclude that President Bashar Assad had recently used the chemical weapon Sarin against Syrian civilians. In other words, the Pentagon does not believe what has been presented to it as evidence, chiefly because of the dubious provenance of the providers.

The importance of the evidence source is critical in Syria because the jihadis arrayed against Assad ascribe to a doctrine of deception called taqiyya. Taqiyya fully supports and condones behavior such as chemical weapons “false flags” to gain advantage against infidel enemies on the ground."CONTINUED


(2) "Mr. Soft Heart or Brutal Tyrant? Anti-Assad Narrative Falls Apart at Seams"
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201511031029549034-assad-high-public-support-syria-elections/


(3) “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U


(4) "Study: Anti-Islam Messages Dominate Media Coverage"
https://thinkprogress.org/study-ant...e-media-coverage-276a6e651758?gi=70ff4942f4aa