How did the U.S. become the epicenter of the pandemic?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    It's "under control" and was a "problem that's going to go away," Trump falsely claimed on February 25. "We have very few people with it," and "the people are getting better, they're all getting better!", Trump claimed, even as epidemiologists and the CDC were making the ominous prognosis and recommending immediate, sensible preventative measures.

    If Trump was misinformed when he appeared to pull this one out of his butt -

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    "Anybody who wants a test gets a test!"
    after Pence had just admitted that the US can’t meet coronavirus testing demand
    March 6, 2020

    - who fed Trump this fake information he parroted that made him look like such a lying piece of trumpery? Surely, Trump needs to blame somebody.

    Has a scapegoat yet been designated? Why that delay?
     
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    Because it began here months before it appeared in China, but the Tramp CDC was calling it influenza.
     
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    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

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    Chinese propaganda nonsense.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I heard the Russians helped spread it in the US.
    I did note Natty chose the NYT as a source for the Op-ed. Think there is any bias there? Na, just another solid lefite source.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has done 1,000x better than Biden would have done. Biden said it was racist and xenophobic to stop people coming here from China.
     
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    So why were Democrat dense cities the first to get hit and hit the hardest? If everything the President says is a lie and every Democrat smugly knows this then why didn't they go into a protective lockdown mode long ago when the President started talking about the Chinese virus?
     
  7. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Denser human populations are especially susceptible to contagion, of course. The virus is not hyper-partisan, not even politically partisan.

    Why did Fake Don blow gas about testing, when testing has proven effective in limiting the spread of the pandemic in other nations?

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    "Anybody who wants a test gets a test!"
    after Pence had just admitted that the US can’t meet coronavirus testing demand
    March 6, 2020

     
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    Do you honestly believe numbers coming out of China? Do you realize WHO covered for them when this first started saying corona doesnt spread person to person? Why do you believe WHO now?
     
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    Do you think Biden who called Trumps China travel ban " fear mongering " would have handled this better?
     
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    How could he have gotten worse results?

    US is the place in the world with the highest spread of the virus and the highest number of sick people.

    Soon the country will also have the highest number of deaths per day.
     
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    We’re a very mobile society. I guess you would have shut down down all domestic air travel and imposed martial law.

    Your criticism is shrill.
     
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    I'm Canadian.

    I've been housebound for two weeks.

    I am not allowed to go out except to the grocery store, pharmacy or hospital.

    In general, people respect the quarantine imposed by the government.

    Here, we took it seriously from the start. Especially when we saw the Chinese taking drastic measures to contain the virus.

    Here, no propagandist media that didn't care about the risks of the pandemic.

    Which means we'll soon have the spread under control.

    How about you?
     
  13. Natty Bumpo

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    If you can support your xenophobic paranoid conspiracy theory by citing any credible sources, I'd certainly consider it.

    In addition to medical authorities without a political agenda, my frequent exchanges with a friend in Shainghai comports with the progress that has been otherwise indicated.

    Meanwhile, do you have an excuse for Trump falsely claiming that, "Anybody who wants a test gets a test!" after Pence had just admitted that the US can’t meet coronavirus testing demand?
     
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    In the U.S. there is a hyper-partisan political ilk that had dismissed, minimized, and distorted the threat of the pandemic even as epidemiological experts were sounding the alarm. The fake claims of politicians and consequential delays have now made the U.S. the epicenter of the pandemic.
     
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    You dodged every one of my questions. LOL


    Josephwalker said:
    Do you honestly believe numbers coming out of China? Do you realize WHO covered for them when this first started saying corona doesnt spread person to person? Why do you believe WHO now?
     
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    No. Not false but true. The problem is under control, despite democrat failings for political reasons or their incompetence. It improves by the day. Coronavirus will go away, so that's true too. You are an alarmist.

    2 Very few people have it, so that's true. Far fewer actually die from it, so that's also true. Again, your hatred is clouding your vision. Your claim that CDC was "making the ominous prognosis and recommending immediate, sensible preventative measures." is very vague. It means just about nothing in itself.

    Democrats have one mantra: "We Can't Do!"
     
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    Visceral hatred will cause a lot of people to believe anything that fits their meme. The Chinese virus could have killed tens of thousands and the free world will hear little of the truth but much of their rhetoric to the contrary.
    Personally, I believe nothing that comes out of that countries state run press.
     
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    Hyper-partisan denial for hardcore trump fanatics is no longer an option.

    His false statements and the resulting plight are documented.
     
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    Biden is pretty much pushed back in a corner making incoherent noises at this point.
     
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    Can you please post a quote and source link supporting this?
    I’ve looked and I can’t find it.
     
  21. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you cannot sustain your hyper-partisan raving with any credible sources, I must leave you to your delusions.

    Of course, China had provided fake data initially, and Trump clearly fell for it.
     
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    "Hyper-partisan" remarks are yours alone, and your apparent threat is as vague as everything else you rant.
     
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    It's amazing that YOU would call ANYONE "Hyper-partisan".

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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    If you are impervious to the documented data I have provided, you are fated to wallow in the denial that has been the earmark of hardcore Trumpers as epitomized by their copious errant posts on these forums, e,g.,

    “fearmongering by certain alarmist that have attempted to make this political”

    “The mainstream media's ability to gin up hysteria is amazing.”

    “It wont last long”

    “The msm is rooting for a high body count.”

    “I don't think the CV is a worldwide killer”
     
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    So you admit China has a history of lying about this virus so why do you believe them now?
     
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