How Does One Justify Being Anti-homosexual Rights?

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  1. Archer0915

    Archer0915 New Member

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    How the hell does one justify being gay? There is your answer on a psychological level. You like to suck ****, say we must accept you and we don't like you for it.
     
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    Why would anyone need to?​
     
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    Read this
     
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    Why would one need to justify not liking it?
     
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    Can't think of a reason. You're welcome to like, not like, even hate whatever you want. You're less entitled to deny civil rights to anyone because of those feelings.​
     
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    Nobody has been denied anything they want a right created.

    Blacks were allowed to marry blacks (male and female) this was wrong so it got fixed and now white men can marry black women and black men can marry white women or women to men however you want to put it but men and men is another ball game. It does not build the society. Contribution is not there with gays.
     
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    then they wouldn't have gone to the govn't in the first place. you seem to have confused yourself. you're all over the place. take a deep breathe and try and post something intelligent. Or you can keep proving my point for me. it's up to you.
     
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    Actually homosexual marriage can build society. 25% of Homosexual couples raise children, and only 19% of them are adopted. This is not that different from heterosexual married couples, which is 44% of them raising children (note that this does not include regular heterosexual couples). Homosexuals go to their lesbian or gay friends when they want to have children, so yes homosexuals can build society by having and raising children.
     
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    No one wants a right created. Folks just don't find it reasonable to deny the right that exists, the right to marry, based on gender. Civil rights are not earned, they're guaranteed by citizenship. There is no fee to be able to vote, no one can deny you free speech because you haven't contributed to them. Same with marriage.​
     
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    Who is asking/demanding that you or anyone to "like" homosexual people?
     
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    What?! Are you implying that homosexual people are NOT denied 'equality' (in many ways, in this society)? If so, you aren't being accurate or just being dishonest.

    Bottom line, White guys (in America) don't get to dictate to all other citizens, the rights they possess under the Constitution.

    Similar answer: I 'majority' (in America) does not get to all other citizens, the rights they possess under the Constitution.

    Yuo aren't even making sense. You are speaking from a faulty paradigm or irrational animus. You many not see it, but I'm going to continue to let you know about it.
     
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    OP is.
     
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    It has never been a right in this country. You want something that has never been.
     
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    I made no such demand.
     
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    That's debatable. Even so, if there truly is no "right", scores of Americans think there SHOULD be; and I am WITH them.

    If what you say is actual, then of course... I'm going to STAY mounted-up and continue to fight FOR (even harder) the same.

    I really don't know what you want and I don't care as much about that, as what an individual human being should have as 'rights'.
    After all, there is no reason for any of us to DENY another human being any right... unless it steps upon the rights/freedoms of others.

    Why is it somehow correct to discriminate against homosexual people? (I tell you the truth, I'm not supporting such unjustified discrimination; not ever.)
     
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    I don't see that you did either. And of course, no one can "demand" acceptance; we can only advocate or fight to have ALL Americans be protected EQUALLY under the laws of this land. And those against the same, will be challenged (not only by homosexual people).
     
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    Now respond to my criticisms of your argument.
     
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    It has never been a right in this country. You want something that has never been.
     
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    The implication is in the thread title. To some of us it is on the same level as the NAMBLA and asking that question to us is insulting. I never said demanding.
     
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    Marriage has been a right a long time. You want to argue it's becoming a new thing by removing a gender restriction? Then voting became a new thing in 1870. And again in 1919.​
     
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    There's no link between liking someone and recognizing they have civil rights. If we granted civil rights only to those we liked, this would be a very different country.

    ... and it's disturbing that someone would have so little concern for child safety that they would raise a restriction against child rape to the same level of consideration as restricting people by gender.​
     
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    That doesn't even make sense.

    Even IF what you say is (somehow) true... that doesn't mean we shouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to ensure it is a 'right'.

    What the hell are you talking about?!
     
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    Indeed, you are being truthful and reasonable.
     
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    Simply put I have a right to be against anything I choose to be in this country. I have a vote as well and the fact is I (just as much as anyone else in this country) have a right to vote against what you perceive as a right. That is how it works. You want to cite the parts of the law you agree with and do away with what you do not. At this point in time you have not got a national right to marry a same sex person. Some states may grant this but again move to those states.

    So you can push shove cry and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) all you want but the fact is if the majority feels strongly enough about it you will not gain what you see as a right. You don't like it? Deal with it because there are plenty of things screwed up in this country and this may be one of them in your mind. In my mind I like having the ability to resist what I do not like just as you enjoy the freedom to fight for what you believe..
     
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