How many should read Freud?

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  1. Bishadi

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    basic wiki


    http://www.archive.org/details/mosesandmonothei032233mbp

    that be a link to read the book

    on the left is the pdf version.....

    how many have even observed the concept that freud published about?
     
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    """""It is too coincidential that Akhenaten initiated his monotheism at the same time as the origin of Moses, the monotheist. Furthermore, we see that the entire Amarna family disappeared at roughly the same time, leaving no tombs except Tutankhamun (though the creators of this site do believe the tomb of Nefertiti and Akenaten does exist as yet unfound). The sudden appearance of Hebrew script at this time indicates that it was Akenaten (himself the Levitical High Priest) who broke the code of the priests and began the original dispersion of monotheistic thought.

    The chronology as we see it:


    1650 b.c. The mega-eruption of the Santorini/Thera caldera is heard and seen as far as Tibet


    Coastal inundation of Egypt and all western coastlines of the Mediteranean


    Hyksos invaders and "Sea Peoples" (Phoenicians) come on the coat-tails of this eruption


    Abraham (Himself a Phoenician Naval Captain) and wife Sarah visit Egypt


    Abraham fears the Pharaoh (Thutmosis III) on behalf of his beautiful wife, says she is his "sister"


    Sarah stays in Egypt, cohabits with the Pharaoh for some amount of time


    Pharaoh, discovers the truth, sends her back, pregnant, to her husband Abraham


    Ishmael is born (of Abraham's line from Pharaoh's daughter, Hagar, given to him by Pharaoh as an apology/offering)


    Isaac is born (from Sarah's line, not Abraham's, son of Pharaoh)


    Abraham is miraculously prevented from killing the infant Isaac


    Isaac fathers Jacob


    Jacob fathers Yuya (Joseph)


    Yuya sold to slavers


    Yuya rises to Vizier of Thutmosis IV, given ring of the Pharaoh


    Amenhoep III (Solomon) is born


    Yuya and Tuya produce the girl child Tiye


    Amenhotep III (Solomon) becomes Pharaoh, marries Tiye, daughter of Yuya and Tuya


    Young Solomon is advised by Yuya, sets aside builders and materials for the Great Temple to the One True Creator


    Queen Tiye and King Solomon produce Amenhotep IV (later named Akhenaten) and his older brother, Crown Prince Thutmose


    Solomon rules, pushes boundaries of Egypt back out, battles insanity and scheming priests


    Young Akhenaten observes greedy corrupt Hyksos/Levitical/Theban priests and vows to remove their power


    Akhenaten's older brother is murdered


    Akhenaten is hidden away (in the reeds so to speak) by his mother Tiye, (who is also the biblical Miriam).


    Akhenaten marries Nefertiti, his childhood love and soulmate


    Akhenaten changes his name to Akhenaten (first time)


    Akhenaten builds his city Tel-El-Amarna, complete with the first temple of Solomon, housing the Ark of the Covenant


    Akhenaten closes the temples of Egypt, promotes the One True Creator


    Akhenaten produces Tut (who is corrupted by theban priests)


    Akhenaten fakes his death (from disease)


    Akhhenaten is 'buried' by Smenkare (who is actually his wife, Nefertiti) with all processions of the Pharaoh


    Nefertiti (Smenkare) marries her firstborn daughter and intimate confidant, Meritaten


    Akhenaten changes his name to Moses (second name change)


    Moses (disguised via beard) appears to his northern tribesman and ancestor, Jethro.


    Horemheb seizes control of Egypt after the accidental (chariot-fall) death of Tut


    Moses and Jethro (along with Aaron; Moses' right hand man) appear before Horemheb


    Horemheb pursues the people of Amarna (now led by Moses) and drowns in the reed sea


    Moses and his people enter the wilderness for fourty years, thereby avoiding the plagues which ravaged Egypt.""""""

    http://moses1350.wetpaint.com/







    there is something that another party offered
     
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    fyi................. i observed the concept before ever reading it from anyone else.

    i read the bible (in many versions) and have always enjoyed egyptian history

    but i did not read the combining from another and then present the concept.


    ie...... anyone can measure the same idea




    so no matter how many stick to the beliefs.............. Moses was born, raised and must have learned all he knew from Egyptian libraries (of pharoahs house) if he even existed ..........


    i get the idea that moses was ahkenatan himself and why the schism from egypt to amarna even occurred.

    i could be wrong and why i opened this thread to see what others have for resources and thoughts
     
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    page 91

    "If our research leads us to a result that reduces religion to the status of a neurosis of mankind and explains its grandiose powers in the same way as we should a neurotic obsession in our individual patients, then we may be sure we shall incur in this country the greatest resentment of the powers that be."



    that is what i fear (summarize) as well.

    people will hate many of the leaders (especially of beliefs) if jeruselem is destroyed that completely takes the heads off the 3 horns (ladies; religions of abraham)


    i was not really a freud kind of guy but wow, this guy can write in my kind of language; direct!
     
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    Freud also came to another similar conclusion:

    "...he (ahkenatan) hallowed them by the custom of circumcision, gave them laws and introduced them to the Aton religion which the Egyptians had just discarded. Perhaps the rules the man Moses imposed on his Jews were even harder than those of his master and teacher Ikhnaton;"


    page 98


    Egypt began circumcision...... (a historical fact)
     
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    Absolutely none--it is a waste of time--try Heinlein instead.
     
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    what people forget, is the oldest torah is about 800yrs difference from when moses per se lived

    but moses was who supposedly wrote the torah.

    So then, if the commands came from moses and on stone tablets, then in that arc, if ever found, i propose they will be in the akkadian language.


    And then, if that arc is supposed to have the first torah, maybe the dimensions of noahs ark would be required to carry so many stones to hold the amount of information within the first 5 books of bible (torah)
     
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    I partially agree. Try reading the Holy Bible.
     
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    The bible is OK, if you are interested in a bit of history, mixed in with lots of myth and superstition, of a long dead mid-eastern tribe. Personally I will go with Heinlein, I just reread "Between Planets" and it is still great, even though its science is long outdated (it was written in 1951).
     
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    Sts Augustine and Aquinas is much better. Bout to start City of God :)
     
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