How many students are expelled for Sexual Misconduct?

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  1. CCitizen

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    Many students are expelled without evidence. Fortunately the situation is not as grim as I thought it was.

    Some data is Here. Between 2014 and 2020,
    Given college enrollment of 25.3 million, that means that between 2014 and 2020 there were about 1,100 expulsions and 2,040 suspensions per year for Sexual Misconduct.

    I thought countless tens of thousands were expelled and suspended.
     
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    Extrapolating the data to years 2013-2022, we estimate that about 11,000 students were expelled and 20,000 were suspended across all institutions of higher education since Dear Colleague letter. Is this a high number?

    Many male students are expelled without and semblance of due process. Many cases are extremely unjust:

    Appeals Court: USC Violated Due Process Rights of Male Student Expelled for Sexual Misconduct..

    In Too Many Sexual Assault Cases Colleges Lack A Basic Understanding Of Fair Process.
     
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    Universities have taken on too much of what should be matters for police and courts.

    I really don't think Universities should be expelling anyone based on anything but a court conviction. Is the law on this developing in the US? Have law suits from expelled students who were innocent had any impact there?
     
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    Higher education is a product, which includes residence management. Those who buy the product have seen the rules.

    They sell parents on safety of their kids, besides the quality of the education. Students spend a LOT on tuition and have a short period within which to do a LOT of work.

    If there are assaults, harassments and other behaviors that impact a student's ability to accomplish their work, that is a SERIOUS problem, quite possibly impacting the accomplishment of the degree for which they paid tens of thousands of dollars just for the opportunity.

    Campus is a tight environment where there is little opportunity for avoidance. Class schedules, where/when food is available, where one's room is, where the library and other resources are, where projects may be worked on, etc., can not be changed by a student who is trying to avoid harassment.

    Police and courts don't operate in a timeframe or address the full range or problems in a way that is even slightly useful here.

    Attendance at a college is NOT some irrevocable right.
     
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    Have they? They've been told that they will be held in kangaroo courts and expelled for things it hasn't be proved to any reasonable standard that they did? I've never seen that in a University brochure.

    It is a right if you paid to attend, were promised a good education, and were then thrown out without good evidence that you did anything wrong.

    They should rightly be sued, and they should lose.

    They should also be sued more often for racial discrimiantion in admissions. If you can't put a "no blacks need apply" sign on your storefront, you shouldn't be allowed to put a "we have enough asians already" policy in your school, for the same reason.
     
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