You choose to misinterpret the court because you know have no argument against it. Sad. But, its what you do. The court specifically discarded our argument two decades ago: Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment . We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, e.g., Reno v. American Civil Liberties Union, 521 U. S. 844, 849 (1997) , and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, e.g., Kyllo v. United States, 533 U. S. 27, 35–36 (2001) , the Second Amendment extends, prima facie,to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html Try to keep up. Still waiting for you to demonstrate how the fact anyone can commit a theft any time they want proves your claim that laws against theft prevent theft. Oh? You can't We know. So do you.
It used to be hard to believe that there are some individuals for whom cruelty and bullying are lots of fun but the more you get around the more you see it. Bullies behind the wheel of a car are not as bad as bullies like animal, child and wife abusers for whom there are special places. In spite of the world's collection of miscreants, I feel that most people are basically good and just trying to get through life . Thanks,
If we are counting my car, I carry a revolver and two speed loaders. Those really aren't really specifically for defense but just something I like having when I go to the range.
For some reason I have never felt comfortable using speed loaders. I simply feel that in a stressful situation and poor lighting there are too many things that go wrong. Do you practice with the speed loader frequently and do you prefer revolvers over semi auto pistols? Thanks,
I only use them (speed loaders) for convenience at the range. I practice with them, but I'm not sure if I'd ever depend on them outside the range. Plus, I don't really have anything prepared to carry them outside the car or the range. My preference for revolvers is really more of a nostalgia thing. It isn't so much that I prefer revolvers so much that my favorite handgun is a revolver: my grandad's old Model 19. And I rather like .357 magnum as a round, making me lean toward my revolver.
And, as a side note, I didn't really carry in my car until I had a couple of bad experiences as a real estate agent and a REALLY bad road rage incident.
357 is a good choice because you can stuff any 38 caliber ammo in it that you can find and enjoy reduced recoil loads. I would certainly feel sufficiently protected with even just 5 38 loads. Plus you will never have to worry about a failure to fire or a stove pipe jam. I don't know if you remember or not but a couple of years ago I mentioned a friend of mine who had a 1911 in a holster going up the back steps behind his house and somehow shot himself in the leg at point blank range with a hollow point 45. I'm not sure exactly how it happened and needless to say he doesn't really want to talk about it all that much. He was extremely lucky to survive and barely missed his femoral artery. An accidental or negligent discharge like that is almost unheard of with the double action revolver.
Jeezy Creezy, I'm glad your friend was okay! I like having the option of both .38 and .357, and I also like being able to adjust between either single action or double action. A fun thing that no one should ever try: when a certain someone not named Yardmeat takes people to the range and lets a friend use their revolver, they load the first 5 chambers with .38 and that last with .357 for a "fun surprise." I'm actually really comfortable shooting .357 now and am used to the recoil. Though if I ever had to shoot it inside the house or from inside my car, my eardrums may never forgive me.
A lot of people don't give the classic snub nose the credit it deserves, calling them very inaccurate for anything but self-defense range. The truth of the matter is even a snub nose is very accurate if you stage the trigger in double action. In double action mode it has a long heavy trigger pull. The trick is slowly and smoothly squeezing throughout its range of motion..... without jerking. With that very short sight radius any jerking of the trigger translates to a loss of accuracy. I watched a YouTube video the other day of a man explaining it and he was using a snub nose 38 and consistently hitting a dinner plate size Target out to 100 yards with it. Maybe check out YouTube and look for videos of staging the trigger with a snub nose and you might find that video.
I think that anyone who knows anything about shooting will tell you that the best shots are usually people who use lots of ammunition. You may also be surprised to see how many women are taking up competitive shooting which also requires lots of ammunition. I wish you knew how enjoyable an afternoon of casual shooting competition can be. Guns aren't only about killing . Thanks,
And you'll never hear someone just out of a gunfight tell you he had too much ammo, or his rounds hit too hard.
I agree with you but.... we're talking about how much you take with you at all times, like to the grocery store (Regular Basis?) - not how many rounds you have practiced with... seems extreme to always leave the house packed with a gun and 2+ reloads worth of ammo everywhere one goes now if you know you're going to a dangerous place, sure, but everywhere you go?
Absolutely. Exactly like the fire extinguishers & seatbelts in my vehicles. See post 22 to this thread, and the incidents described there. The first occurred in Rocky Mountain National Park, boasting one of the lowest rates of violent crime in Colorado. The second went down in Puyallup WA; in similarly tranquil environs. I've shared those episodes umpteen times here. Do you think it's good thing we were armed? If you can manage a yes or no, you'll be the very first PF anti gunner to pull it off.
that's based on your extensive experience in civilian gun fights or self defense with firearms or something you read in a Giffords gun grabber post?
were not saying anything about being armed, were talking about taking tons of ammunition everywhere you go
yeah, not so dangerous I need to take tons of ammo everywhere I go when I leave the house why not take grenades too, never know
"'TONS' OF HYPERBOLES" I'm sure that you've heard the term "reductio ad absurdum" and probably realize that what you were doing when you suggested that anyone would take "tons of ammo" and maybe "... take grenades too". The thing is that when GCAs (Gun Control Advocates) exaggerate about 2A supporters taking "tons of ammo" and "...grenades too" when they go to the grocery store, we can only assume that they are also exaggerating about the number of children killed in the last year or how many times an "assault weapon" has been used in a school shooting. But, back to the topic. Since I have already confessed to being a lazy optimist who rarely carries, the only extra ammunition I have with me are the few loose rounds on the floor of my car. Finally, I'm just curious. Are there any circumstances that would carry a pistol either open or concealed. At any rate, I hope that you never find yourself in immediate need for a firearm. Thanks,
I can't speak to my dad while I was an infant; I don't know if he had any extra rounds for his Colt Python. I had an extra magazine for the Makarov I was carrying at the time, for a total of 17 rounds. If I understand you correctly, you have no problem with my dad & I having been armed - yes or no? But you are troubled by the extra clip I brought to my confrontation with the crackheads - yes or no? Color me skeptical you'll be able to answer either of those oh-so-difficult yes or no questions with yes or no answers.
were not talking about people with tons of ammo, were talking about people that never leave the house with tons of ammo on their person
nope, every American has the right to be armed - what I am saying is carrying tons of ammo seems a bit excessive in most situations
That’s false. I have seen people here alone saying that any law that impacts guns is unconstitutional including background checks.
Which of these qualifies as "excessive" to you? A) The loaded Makarov + 1 reload (17 rounds) I carried 25 years ago B) My present-day EDC + 2 reloads (15 rounds) C) My optional EDC + 1 reload (28 rounds) D) My optional EDC + 2 reloads (43 rounds) E) All of the above Curious where you draw the line.